Oh dear, a conservative thread about trans people. Looks like they're making shit up again.
Nazis gonna nazi.
this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2023
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Thats an odd use of Nazi. Last I checked, Nazis were knowing for hating Jewish people. You know, like modern day leftists.
Oh look, more lies. Do you people ever say anything real?
Thats fucking amazing. Nazis aren't known for hating jews, rather hating trans people.
That level of bigotry and willful ignorance, you just don't see it that often.
They're known for hating both, and more minority groups besides. Learn your history if you want to try to correct people.
You should ask your allies what "Weimar problems, Weimar solutions" means.
If you think it's "odd," then you either don't know what Nazism entails or you're lying.
Now why would someone lie about what Nazis believe?
Saying trans people should use the mens league is not equal to pretty much anything that happened to the jews in Nazi Germany.
Maybe you could point out where I said they were?
Do you ever try to engage with the thing people say?
I know those talking points mean you don't have to think critically, but they do hinder discussion.
Besides, you do know that the Nazis exterminated gay and trans people, right? Do you think that became possible without demonizing the victims first?
What an ignorant reply. Or, again: a lie.
ay, I presumed what you meant by weimar problems weimar solutions. What did you mean by weimar problems weimar solutions, if not a trans holocaust?
Also you're the only one saying weimar problems weimar solutions.
What did you mean by weimar problems weimar solutions, if not a trans holocaust?
That is what I meant.
And I didn't say it first, I'm quoting the neo-nazi thing that they're currently chanting at rallies to call back to that time the Nazis exterminated gay and trans people.
You're equating the wrong things and missing the point.
You do realize the Nazis exterminated trans people in the Holocaust? Or are you a Holocaust denier, too?
Wtf are you talking about?
Is this one of those "Milk is a white supremacy symbol" situations?
So you are a Holocaust denier.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Thats a straight up lie.
So you admit the Nazis systematically killed gay and trans people in the Holocaust?
Otherwise, it's not a lie and you're spreading Holocaust denialism.
Yes? That was never in question. You're arguing in bad faith.
Thats fucking amazing. Nazis aren't known for hating jews, rather hating trans people. That level of bigotry and willful ignorance, you just don't see it that often.
Yeah. I'm arguing in bad faith.
Meanwhile, you keep contributing to the hatred. You're on the same side as the neo-nazis and it doesn't make you stop and reconsider your position.
So at what step did the Nazis take it too far then?
It's a pretty modern, normal use of the word. Just because you can't accept that language changes doesn't stop it from evolving.
Shocked that the fascists are obsessed with this.
Not like it's a Nazi tradition to demonize trans people or anything.
Sad that the Conservative sublemmy is full of non-conservatives. I'm reminded of a common liberal mantra: "if you don't like it, just ignore/avoid it"
Also, not a Nazi, don't start your stupidity. I don't want to go on Truth Social or any of the other stupid group circle jerks that ARE full of Nazis etc. I want to discuss conservative values with other NORMAL people who aren't morally ugly or bankrupt.
While I'm at it, I thought you all should know that you can be conservative and not worship Trump.
I get it, Lemmy seems to attract the extreme left. So when you gang up on someone with a different view, you feel like you won because "we shut that Nazi up". That's called mob rule bullying. I thought libs hated bullies...
On topic: sometimes I wonder if people actually, truly believe in 86 genders etc, or if its just a pushback against tradtional, conservative morality.
I want to discuss conservative values with other NORMAL people who aren't morally ugly or bankrupt.
You're going to have to try venturing outside of conservative communities if you want to talk to people who aren't morally bankrupt.
You'll get over it.
No, but I remembered I can block trolls that just hate everything.
I don't hate everything.
I do hate fascism though.
Ok, so what does gender specific sports teams have to do with an all-powerful government autocratic dictatorship? Are you calling Biden a dictator?
Yeah, its a sad state of affairs. Ive thought about doing a "conseratives only" tag that you can put on post titles, like /r/conservative does, and it would help. Im just worried if it would be a slippery slope or not.
Ive also thought about a rule against bad faith arguments, but same thing. It would be a slippery slope.
I feel like Im stuck between a rock and a hard place. I'm pro-free-speech, but man if that isn't tested every time a leftist defends Hamas or thinks transkids is okay or pizzaman posts anything.
I’m pro-free-speech
You're pro free speech, yet ban words on a whim.
leftists defend Hamas
And you straight up lie.
or thinks transkids is okay
And you think that policies that will ultimately lead to more suicides are a good thing
pizzaman posts anything.
Yet somehow I'm the scary guy here.
Free speech has to apply to both sides. But if you're the mod, a rule about calling people Nazis should be an automatic ban.
Remember you're arguing with anonymous crybabies on the internet whose only goal is to make others angry, and claiming superiority based on opinions. Both sides have their extremes, and the reason America can't ever move forward is there is no longer a spirit of compromise and unity. Its now just whoever screams the most and the loudest.
That actually a really good idea, banning the word nazi. It's not like it has any meaning anymore.
Thanks, I'm going to write up a rule and pin a post!
Yeah, that way nobody will point out how you're going down the road to fascism.
What a smart idea!
Ban me first. I'll never stop calling out Nazi shit when I see it. It'd be a point of pride to be the first one kicked off of /c/conservative for pointing out the truth.
/c/conservative for pointing out the truth
I'm sorry, but you've been beaten to the punch. Another user was banned a couple times (I'm not sure if permanent at this point), because they could help but calling leftists the r slur.
It's quite telling that the people conservatives hang around and attract are so willing to use slurs.
But the moment somebody calls out fascism for what it is, then it's somehow a problem.