1 out of 3... Nothing to see here, as you were 🤷🏻♂️
No one cares about what some pundits think, they don’t have jurisdiction and make decisions regarding officiating.
We just want consistency and quality referees. But that won’t happen for a while.
So you can push a defender with two hands to the ground to score if that’s not foul then I pray for all the teams who will play against Haland
Hilarious that theyre saying a blatant push isn’t a foul
Might as well post the whole article about the review panel:
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/7eDTcDxKNQ
Note that they also say Udogie should have received a red for his first yellow
Glad theyre using that photo of kai instead of point of contact. Ya know with his trailing foot. 100% they only saw that photo in order to get to that red card assumption. Absolute idiots.
66% failure rate on the 3 absolutely match altering decisions is disgraceful, but the lack of consequence for the failures even more.
Again, post match whatever these panels or whatever the hell the want to call themselves means fuck all. If these people were so good put them at the VAR duty so that correct call can be made DURING THE MATCH.
Funny that. They decide that the match defining call was correct but happy to hold their hands up to the other two.
It was a foul for the goal. It’s fucking simple. Cowards.
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Apparently there is not enough evidence in that picture
Probably because, just as football fans rage over other VAR decisions showing refs just the still image, a still image doesn’t show enough evidence. Go back slightly from the where the still image is, you’ll see Gabriel jumps upward slightly, before then flopping himself.
I don’t mind getting downvoted into oblivion by fans who disagree with this, but go take a careful look for yourself, without bias, and you’ll see Joelinton doesn’t impede Gabriel, and Gabriel’s movement is inconsistent with if he’d been pushed, hence he can’t have been pushed.
Still won’t stop Arsenal supporters from moaning about it.
OP is a United fan and this is basically a repost
I've never felt closer to spurs supporters than in the last week
I mean they voted that Havertz tackle was a red 5-0 and that Bruno’s was a red 3-2… their findings are hard to deem credible.
But the thing is, football laws are subjective for the most part to the individual interpretation. That game was anomaly, not the norm. I will always be a firm believer that if you need to watch the play more than once to make a decision, whatever ref decided is the correct call.
If we keep playing and replaying these instances, and yet we have major divide on the correctness of the calls, then these arguments are invalid.
Arsenal was unfortunate because of the end result, but the whole disgrace to football is just bullshit to make their fans feel better about the loss.
Football is as subjective as boxing now,
Would love to know how "independent" these folks are. What's the point of making their identities hidden? They could have side hustles in the middle-east for all we know...
I dunno, expecting 100% unanimous is not how things work though. That’s why you have multiple people on a panel. Came to the right decision at least now
I feel like this so called "PL Independent Key Match Incident" committee proceeded purely to discredit Arteta's statement. Sky Sports & PGMOL are all both in cahoots to protect each other & prop each other's interests. This is why they can suddenly conjure Howard Webb for a cheeky little guest appearances on MNF.
And to see they're trying to dust their hands with the Havertz tackle, when if we look across 10 matches it was clear that the ref's on field and VAR were systemically not interested in giving straight reds for harsh challenges that weekend.
Only one player got a straight red for an equivalent dangerous challenge and it was in the box and after he already should've gotten one for violent conduct.
Remember when they were boasting that VAR will result in 98.8% of decisions being correct lol
Who is part of this independent committee?? Unless we know that how can we truly know it's independent?
??? why always the first image that is shown in havertz tackle? That leg doesn't even catch anyone
You just wake up this week mate? Old news with at least one post already.
Joelinton has two stretched arms in the back of Gabriel, how is that not a freekick?! 👀
The Bruno incident probably doesn’t even happen if Havertz gets correctly sent off. He’d completely lost his head in the aftermath to that and half-time came at a good time for him.
Ok cool. But what is going to change to prevent wrong calls in the future?
The goal call was correct, and thats the important one.
An apology, according to pgmol
Players see a red , miss three matches, Few more yellows, miss a match, easy touch Wrong call? Ohh human error darling. Blunder? Apologies maybe? 😳👉🏻👈🏻
I’m in awe people are still crying about this. The Liverpool decision last night was worse and the man United decision was about on par and everyone has moved on.
Man I am crying about all of it. I don't care if it was UEFA, the Rashford Red Card was fucking atrocious. I didn't see the Liverpool call but I also cried about the abysmal communication that disallowed Liverpool's goal against Tottenham too. And I will cry when any team is fucked over by the refs. Refs are making headlines more than players are, and that is a problem.
True, because other decisions were worse we should ignore all other injustices. We should also just move on and then complain about the same stuff next week when more bad decisions happen. Nothings going to change if people don't keep talking about it.
Arsenal have the most batshit conspiracy theory crazy fanbase on the internet, they are either 10yr olds or have the mental capacity of 10yr olds. it’s hilarious how triggered they got over a correct decision this week. They’ve become the new banter FC, been some incredible takes. Been fun to watch the state of some of it
I think it's the fact that there are 3 controversial incidents in one game and within one of those incidents 3 controversial calls were made.
Add to that the aggrieved parties manager called out the refereeing organisation.
It's being reposted by a United fan, only difference is this is now in a neat little graphic instead of the full report.
Arsenal fans are the softest fan base in all of football. I honestly don't get how they watch the game and find enjoyment out of it.
For me, I think it’s because people can’t even admit that Arsenal got fucked over that match. There are still people who think the goal was fair.
Then there’s stories of PGMOL making sure pundits cover the referees
I would love to see what evidence they had to disallow the goal that Rashford apparently let the ball go out of play for. Different rules for different clubs apparently.
I just don't really get the consistency here.
I personally have no issue with VAR not being able to rule that the ball went out of play. I think Gabriel was fouled in the build-up and I still don't see how they didn't have the correct footage for the offside, but that's another matter entirely.
My point is that if there wasn't enough evidence to rule out whether or not Willock had run the ball out for them to act, then why was Rashford keeping the ball in play against Brighton not given the same advantage? Surely, they had the same level of evidence for that, no?
They had a camera view level with the goal line for the rashford goal, which they didn't for this one.
Note that the panel only voted 3-2 in favour of saying Bruno's intentional forearm to the head of Jorginho should have been reviewed and been a red card.
The rules are very clear that striking someone intentionally in the head is violent conduct and a red so there is no excuse for getting this wrong. But why might that be the case?
Well this independent panel includes 3 ex players and or coaches. Why are they deemed competent to know the rules and give valid opinions? As we know from punditry players often have shit takes because when they played football they could two foot people from behind or elbow people in the face as they jump up for headers.
They say it isn't a foul, but I can see him pushing Gabriel with both hands into his back. Are the Premier League's independent key match incidents panel blind or stupid?
Reminds me of when police investigate their own department and say they found non wrongdoing.
The fact that only 3-2 of them said Bruno should have been sent off is super fishy.
I don’t trust how independent this ‘independent’ panel is.
Ball was out of play on that goal. Can't convince me otherwise