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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Kimmich is THE midfield for Bayern, everyone else is a cosplayer. And some of the Bayern fans and pundits scapegoat Kimmich while Goretzka or Laimer are casually playing as AM's.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"minutes 1-39" vs. "minutes 1-62" sure does smell fishy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That's when the first subs were made

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's very obvious that Kimmich is the main point of buildup whenever he plays, but it also opens up such easy counterplay that simply wasn't there in the Dortmund game

All you have to do is press Kimmich, he will find a solution 98/100 times, but the 2 times he doesn't you get a big chance (or a red like vs Darmstadt)

Idk how to fix it, not even a real #6 would help here, maybe he has to drop even further (Alonso style) to sit between the 2 CBs and have the coverage there

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its why so many teams run double pivots. Even Rodri runs in a double pivot. Modern DM is just too complicated and important to be done by a single player now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Rodeo is big, strong and skillful. Even if you can match him physically, it is hard to take the ball away from him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You fix it by stopping the passes to Kimmich just outside the 18 when he's facing his own goal. He immediately gets pressed from behind and instead of going right back to Neuer, he tries to play his way out of it.

If he can't handle that, you have to stop doing it. I cringe every time I see that pass and there's a press coming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If he can't handle that, you have to stop doing it.

The thing is, he's had multiple world class coaches with world class analytics teams and it's still happening, at this point it surely isn't fixable and/or a desirable outcome in the eyes of the coaches. Like surely this can't still be a coincidence after all these years of this exact same thing happening, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The gamble might be that he unlocks more situations that ultimately beat out the risk of a massive turnover. Funny thing is with Upamecano/Kim starting, you have two excellent distributors of the ball anyway, but there still is an over-reliance on Kimmich in buildup.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

IMO best useful would be him being used in a double pivot, or playing with 3 centre-backs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

3 CBs is my favourite too, especially since we have 3 world-class ones. Would need to sign 2 new ones though + Stani.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its always like this with a ball playing 6. Players move into attacking positions for the playmaker to pick a pass, if this goes wrong the defense is exposed.

That's what I find more interesting here. Look at the average positions when kimmich is playing. All players are a lot more advanced than in the other picture, even defenders. A lot of interesting points to discuss further from this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

the biggest reason for that difference in player position (apart from extremely limited sample size) is most likely due to how high up the pitch galatasaray pressed vs how much space dortmund allowed for most the game