A lack of transparency and communication from the referees will only cause further misunderstanding between them and the players, managers and the fans which would not bode well for the mentioned "unsafe enviroment" here
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As compared to the cool and collected high stakes decision making we are all currently experiencing. Gimme a break bruh
Then make it less chaotic.
We recently had the Rugby World Cup, and it wasn't chaotic. It can be done.
Stop making excuses.
I watched the most rugby as I've ever watched in this World Cup. Aside from the games, which were great, and going back to football, I'm really going to miss how the TMO process works.
It’s chaotic because they all shout over each other. It’s no wonder that they make mistakes when you’ve 3+ people all speaking over each other.
There should be a cleaner communication process, or someone whose sole purpose is to act as a facilitator for the conversation.
It seems ridiculous that multiple people are talking over each other. Why does it need to be a panel discussion? Before VAR, it was a one person decision. Now the only additional component is that there is video and there should just be an experienced referee talking to broadcasters requesting for angles and then communicating with the referee.
Regarding safety, I am somewhere in the middle. Football hooliganism is at a high and showed itself in France this weekend. More communication provdes more ammunition.
It seems ridiculous that multiple people are talking over each other. Why does it need to be a panel discussion?
I don’t think they can win here. If it was one guy making the decision there would be at least as many mistakes and they’d be slaughtered for having only one person reviewing things.
One of the worst excuses that. Once again it feels like another missed opportunity to stomp down on all conspiracy theory shite.
It’s funny they always go back to ‘safety’ when they do nothing to help. Having their logic broadcast can make them more understandable and even let people have a bit of a sympathy if you can see where they’re coming from.
Just feels like they’re once again trailing behind technology compared to other sports
Then make it not-chaotic. You just need one lead-VAR person and the referees mic to broadcast what is going on. Cut out the noise of the other people looking at things.
Lead-Var should only be discussing what the ref needs to hear and what the broadcast needs to hear. Ref should only be responding to what he hears. It's not rocket science.
Of course it would be chaotic to listen to 5 Northern men yell at each other. A simple and concise communication process (like in Rugby and Cricket) would be fine to listen to. Fix the process first then broadcast the live audio once they can competently do their jobs.
Basically they know their refs are consistently incompetent and they dont want recordings of said incompetence out there because it would just prove all the criticisms about them
Maybe that's why the process tends to fail? Because the communication is chaotic? And maybe that's why the communication with fans is so shit and trust has evaporated? Because these people apparently think we are too stupid to keep 5 voices square in our heads.
And don't get me started on the arrogance of thinking football referees are special little snowflakes that need to be saved from the wrath of 7 billion fans (again, apparently we're all savage morons), while those rugby lads are basically just talking to 10 people who don't actually care about the game. Other sports also put a magnifying glass on the referees and people care a lot about the outcomes.
Chaotic because they'd be exposed 😆
Yeah, it's been so chaotic hearing it at the Rugby World Cup, or the Cricket World Cup. Nothing but pure anarchy
To make it less “chaotic” give the VAR people as much as time they need to make a correct decision
I guess then the question would be, why would we only hear the interactions between the ref and the VAR, and not the conversations with his other assistants? It probably would be chaos, it's hard to disagree - but maybe it's worth an experiment or two?
I don't mind not hearing the conversations live. I would still quite like to hear (or see) the reasons for decisions during the match, once they've reached a decision.
Especially as at the moment you get a worse experience live than sat at home. That's bonkers.
They won't broadcast it live any time soon. Mind you, players might stop swearing at referees so much if they realise everybody hearing them scream "fucking blind cunt" at Stuart Attwell at half four on a Sunday afternoon might mean the endorsement deals from Gucci and Bose start drying up.
Swearing isn't a big deal at all.
In general refs have a line you can say that's a fucking joke but if you tell him he's a fucking joke to his face you're gonna end up in trouble.
TV broadcasters apologise for swearing at boxing matches which are broadcast after the watershed. Repeated dropping of the F bomb during primetime is not something that they will want on the games they pay a lot of money to acquire the rights for.
Right, so don't broadcast it.
This works fine in rugby. If doing it in football would be "chaotic" then that suggests that football's VAR room is basically a clowncar.
There's a very easy way to resolve this.
Mic'd up officials has worked for years in the NFL...