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Looking at the advantages, the 7800xt has:

  1. 10% lower price

  2. 4 more gigs of vram

  3. 6% better raster performance.

The 4070 has:

  1. Better frame gen

  2. Better upscaling via dlss

  3. Better drivers

  4. Better rt performance

  5. CUDA for the few people that actually need it.

  6. Better power efficiency.

  7. The ability to use both dlss and fsr. If a game just has dlss, amd users are screwed.

All in all I think the AMD card is still the underdog based in advantages and needs to be at least 15% cheaper in order to sway buyers to team red. For just a $50 price difference, the team green advantages are too stacked imo.

Edit: this is of course in the US market. Every market is different.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

point 3.) and 7.) of the 4070 is questionable! i wouldn't point this as an advantage.

fsr is in the better position, i mean why does the 3000 Serie lacks of support for dlss 3.0 (3.5)...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

7 is by far the biggest advantage. If a game has no fsr but has dlss, amd is screwed. If a game has no dlss and only has fsr, Nvidia is fine. That versatility alone is huge with how mandatory upscaling is these days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

nah amd drivers are also good

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Meh, still gonna buy a 7800 XT

Better drivers? When will you guys drop that ridiculous myth of bad AMD drivers?

My GTX 1070-80ti had multiple driver errors, while I only had issues once on my old 280X

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Amd drivers are worse though. Both the 7900xtx and 7900xt had massive driver problems for almost 3 months at launch. I’m not saying Nvidia is perfect but they have issues far less often.

Also buying a gpu right now in general is a horrible idea as Nvidia are about to launch the super cards. If amd are smart we should see some huge price drops or else Nvidia will bury them if performance uplift is similar to 20 series super cards

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Glad I bought the 7800xt a few weeks ago at $450 from Newegg. Great value and performance has been amazing. I don't think AMD needs to drop the price on the 7800xt yet ( would be nice for it to be more competitive ) but $500 for what it gives is a deal tbh

Edit: now the 7700xt on the other hand needs to drop to $400 and if it does it will get more attention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Better drivers

lol, spoken like someone who hasn't used Nvidia and AMD drivers over the last 3 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The 7800xt has better performance in just about every game at 1440p, what?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The FSR 3 situation is absolutely crippling what would be very competitive cards, because game devs are building games with upscaling included to achieve minimum performance, which is death for AMD cards. AMD needs to get FSR 3.x WORKING in games asap with VRR and Antilag+ to compete.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or devs could just release a game that is playable at native resolutions instead of half resolution and driver fuckery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Nvidia fucked that forever I think

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are 0 games with FSR3 support as of now. I'm not counting the tech demo aka Forspoken and Immortals of Aveum which are mediocre at best

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Isn't starfield fsr exclusive? Or is that still using fsr2?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"better driver"

Yeah nope about that one, if anything their software suite is a disaster

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I laughed too hard at this, AMD drivers are fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

AMD drivers are rock solid and have been since last generation. Whatever "issues" you're running into are probably self inflicted.

You're either lying, incompetent, or are a Nvidia bot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah I have no issues with amd drivers since my first amd card from 2016

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The sales numbers are kinda irrelevant, when the market share gap is so big. It's kinda common sense at this point, that the Nvidia counterpart would sell better and to that there's more factors than whichever card actually has more features and better price to performance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

AMD has been selling scary well this generation compared to last, what are you even talking about.

Nvidia shill most likely.