I kind of feel like dating apps are sneer-worthy in another context anyway, but this comment does a decent job of summing everything up:
Wow, a new way to rip whatever joy was left in dating through the pursuit of profit!
this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2023
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AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
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As Musk also wants to create a dating app I now wonder if there is some sort of sociological rule that when social movements/communities get stale enough they eventually all try to create a dating app which fails (and then leaks the data of all their users to the public). And if there isn't this sounds like a good bit of research.
I was wondering whether he stole the idea after they tried to get a musk tweet / published this / etc. No way to tell if thatβs what happened though, and theyβd probably never admit it if it did
I think it is just a consequence of those kinds of communities/people where your singular weird obsessions and inability to make room/time for the lives/needs of significant others drives people away, which when they are out of productive ideas causes them to go 'why not make a dating site, lot of people [aka themselves] are lonely this could work!' not realizing that they are partially lonely because they are in such weird insular groups with weird particular monofocusses. In the case of the Rationalists it is amusing this comes after the pua stuff and that it includes betting (which would drive quite a few people away).
But yes would be very funny if they did. Impressively quick building of the site then as well tbh.
Ahaha ow god, one person asks the important question:
what's the definition of dating for 6 months? what's the source of truth?
Both daters have to indicate that they dated for 6 months!
Aella (who I guess is the only one who has enough clout to draw in big betting numbers, and is iirc poly) is going to get so much money via this. She will be an expert on insider trading after this.
Seeing as incel apologetics occasionally appear even in mainstream rat/ea outlets like slate star or shetl (nerds are an oppressed people unfairly stigmatized by the fairer sex, and other Good Guy grievances), one has to wander what the e/a calculus is in regards to doing the most good with your genitals.
Like, keeping your effective altruist higher-ups in peak effectiveness by shielding them from sexual frustration has got to be worth a few million billion far future simulated lives, at the trifling cost of a little of your time and some lube, right?
I can't imagine the peer pressure dynamics in such a dating environment to be too healthy.
That famous shtetl "feminists attack nerds :((( because they're easy targets >:((" is worse in context . The blog post was about how Harvard were wrong to take down videos of physics lectures by a sexual harrasser they just sacked, because they were really good physics lectures you guys. And there were all these appalling comments that Scott didn't give any pushback to - instead, he lit into the one woman in the comments section. for suggesting that nerds commit sexual offences.
I think it was Walter Lewin of MIT, not Harvard
Think you're right, sorry
I canβt imagine the peer pressure dynamics in such a dating environment to be too healthy.
The incel apologetics posts at least tend to present themselves as one degree removed by being 'backlash to the backlash' (recent example), it's the comments that tend to get truly unhinged:
Nearly all of my sexual and relationship success involved an unmistakable element of RPing Neutral Evil.
But incels are defined by their failure to perform well in these games, and they usually have innate (genetic, personality defects) that make them easy targets for abuse (see what feminists like the ones quoted in this piece have to say about them).
Manifold dating: for people who want to fuck the locally Euclidean
Anyone who uses this site is already too in love with prediction markets to have a functional romantic relationship.
Eurgh!
Twitter link - ntter is broken right now
Looks like the SSL cert expired. Can always use one of the nitter mirrors:
https://nitter.unixfox.eu/ManifoldMarkets/status/1718368570391044481