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This is mostly just for discussion, but this is my PC's current state. I do want to do a full custom watercooled setup sometime but I'm wondering if anything is screaming out "upgrade me, I'm old". I mostly game and do CAD design/3D printing. Some photoshop and After Effects work every now and then. What would you upgrade?
What games?
Honestly unless your seeing performance issues, I'd just keep the cash and buy more games.
But you ou could go to a 5800x3d on the same mb/ram. It'd be a drop in cores, but depending on the games it could be beneficial.
Or upgrade cpu/ram/mb to the newest gen
Nah, no issues. This was mostly just for discussion really. I guess I could have worded it better. Like "This is my setup, if you had it and wanted to upgrade something, what would be first?".
I mostly play single player story stuff. Right now playing Breath of the Wild on Cemu. But usually stuff like Fallout, Tomb Raider, Sony's games, Resident Evil, and VR on a Valve Index.
I do feel like cpu/mb/ram would be the thing to upgrade next, but I'd probably do that later. I'm probably going to end up doing water cooling the more I think of it.
I've sunk way too much money into my water cooling setup. It becomes a bit of an obsession.
Welcome to the water cooling club.
This is really the biggest reason I haven't done a custom setup yet. I spend too much on 3D printing as it is. And I'm never satisfied so I know I'd be tinkering forever.
Yeah that's the only thing on the list that I could see a possible improvement in performance in. I'm waiting on a good price for an x3d and I'm coming from an 5600x. Outside of that there won't be much of an improvement anywhere.
Oh, if there's a r/buildapc type community I should post this in, then please let me know. Thanks!
There is a couple of buildapc subs, but they are not very active yet. https://lemmy.one/post/17459 has a good list to wade through and the one listed are:
From what you have 5800x3d is all I would add. That would put you close to what I have. I use a 5950 along with 3800mhz memory, which leaves not much init. I am waiting for Ryzen 5 release before I consider my next update. Early indications are that it will be a tasty piece of kit, but wait for reviews as ever.
https://lemmy.one/post/17459 has a good list to wade through
Oh, awesome, thanks for that! I was looking at the 5800x3d, but it looks like a downgrade to me. Am I missing something? Is the single stacked L3 cache that big of an improvement still even with less cores and lower clock speed?
According to reviewers it comes in just ahead of the 5950 gaming wise. And yes the cache is the big improvement. It is down to the latency improvements the 5800x3d has over the 5950.
For application use where larger chunks of data are feed to the CPU such as video editing, then the 5950 is better because both CPUs have to retrieve the data from the main memory, and thus clock speed wins (as well as the extra cores if they are used). In games though most the data is reused over and over. A large portion stays within the CPU cache system. This is where the latency gains of the 58003xd wins out.
I just installed one in my son's x370 system in January. I couldn't tell you how it fares against mine though. He has far too much crap on his system, and he would not let me spend the time tweaking the memory. It went in without any real issues though. You may need to update the bios to accept Ryzen 5 series CPUs. I would check before stripping your cooler out.
Man, thanks for the detailed post! I'll definitely have to look more into how I'm using my PC nowadays. I still game, but I jump back and forth between the PC and the PS5 a lot. Most of my time is spent in Fusion 360 designing for 3D printing. So I'm not sure about the 5800x3d, but maybe upgrading to a newer generation Ryzen could be in the cards. Either way, I don't want to rush into anything just yet, but you've definitely given me something to think about. Much appreciated!
3d printing is something I know very little about. At a guess I would say the memory usage is minor compared to video editing. Cad can be very intensive with memory use, but 3d printing (to me) seems very simplified by comparison, as you only adjust one shape for the print. Just my twopenneth, as I said no real experience in that area.
as you only adjust one shape for the print
I'm not sure what you mean by this. CAD and 3D printing are two separate processes. You make a design in CAD and then bring that file into 3D printing software (known as a slicer), which converts the model file into a gcode file (basically a list of instructions that the printer interprets for printing) that is given to the printer. The 3D printing part is mostly handled by the printer itself. Slicing the model file is the only part done on the computer. You can also just download files to print and never even use a computer if you don't want to design yourself.
I sometimes download premade files to print, but more often that not I make designs myself in CAD, which I then print. But yes, you are correct in that the 3D printing part isn't memory intensive. But I do a lot of CAD design, which is.
So not memory intensive at all? The benefit of the 5950 is the cores (if utilised by software) and the frequency. Which infers that the 5800x3d would still be your best choice.
The 3D printing part isn't as it doesn't really involve a computer if you don't want to. But if you do CAD design, then yes obviously. The 3D printing slicer software is still 3D software, but you can't do as much as a full blown CAD program.
I use Fusion 360 for CAD design, which uses multiple cores.
Nothing is screaming out to be upgraded, personally I went for 64GB of RAM since I do a lot of flight and racing sims which can be very RAM intensive (I’m looking at you DCS). But it’s still probably overkill to be honest
Yeah, that's how I feel. Nothing is screaming to be upgraded. And it's a workhorse now with no issues knock on wood. Just curious what others thought and I'm just wanting to do something to it, haha. Thanks!
I'm bump up the RAM to 64GB. It's somewhat overkill for most cases but you somewhat future-proof your device more. Also, if you have any interest in AI you can easily run some of the open-source large language models pretty comfortably on the CPU with 64GB of RAM (see llama.cpp program).
OOh, now there's an idea. I'm always looking for new things to play around with. Thanks!
I mean, if you want to future proof you could go with ddr5 ram but then you would need to change your motherboard and a bunch of other stuff I imagine.
To be clear you can probably already run some medium-sized models on 32GB using llama.cpp, as it's been optimized a ton in the past few months - but I know that early on some models were eating up 48GB of my RAM.
@canthidium For me looks good. Probably I'll upgrade that HDD for some SSDs.
Nowadays SSDs last longer than hard drives due to TRIM.
You should check the Asus Hyper or any kind of SSD M.2 adapter to PCIe.
Eh it's just a storage drive. I've got the 2tb ssd in as my main drive but yeah, I'd probably upgrade both sooner than later.