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[–] [email protected] 86 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Unfortunately not Open Source: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE

I'll keep using NewPipe. Their software seems neat, I'll happly pay for it, but no way I'll do if there is licence like that.

Edit: They say the licence is only temporary. Let's keep an eye which one they'll choose later.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Louis explains the license in the video. You can fork it and modify it, but if you fill it up with ads, spyware, malware etc., they fill fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's their goal. They have good intentions. But it also means no commercial use.

You can't do "Hey, can you add this feature to this app, I'll pay you" or "Here is much improved version you can buy from me" or "We give you paid support and help for this software for your company". Eventually all improvements bounce back to original creators anyway, see: vital paid Wordpress theme ecosystem, most of them being GPL licenced.

With project getting bigger such restriction can be almost as bad as with propietary app. Like, imagine Linux kernel but only with Linus Torvalds having right to sell computers with it or offer any services making money.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I sympathise with his reasoning for the license but still, that sucks.

I think I'll try it anyway, though. It's trying to solve a real issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Better revanced = NewPipe

No algorithms, no Google tracking

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

User experience Newpipe is absolute trash

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I personally find LibreTube even better, since it syncs with your Piped account.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

But you cant cast videos to SmartTube with it. So i think Revanced has the better versatility.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'd rather not give all my details for multiple sites to one site...regardless of who's doing it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well actually, your login info never goes to them at all. You log into the sites directly in a webview and it uses the cookie to sync your subs and recommendations locally on your device.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Y'all are ignoring what this actually is - an app for EVERY video platform. Also, restrictive license is fine as long as the source code is available. Rossman explains this is to keep people from just forking and making scam versions of the app like NewPipe sees.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of the people complaining about the license don't get this. Also doubly surprised at those saying they won't use it because the license doesn't allow them to redistribute the app with malware, or charge money for it πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

I'm also completely baffled at the amount of people here who have never heard of Louis Rossmann... literally the dude behind Right to Repair

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

saying they won't use it because the license doesn't allow them to redistribute the app with malware, or charge money for it

They won't use it because the licence creates an inbalance of power, so the creator of the app have more control than the actual user. An app/program is just an set of instructions how to do something.

Why not charge for it? If you just copied and not make anything new noone is going to give you money anyway, while taking something and selling after improvements is literally how all buissness always worked. Maybe except mining or haunting.

As for malware, I bet creator of malware won't be suddenly stopped by a licence text.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I will keep a eye on it but till the license changes I will stick with my tried and true Newpipe and Libretube apps. Both of those are "improved revanced" to me already but the idea of multiple sources is a cool one, not new but certainly cool and I haven't seen Nebula in other attempts but I just wish people could agree on a addon standard to implement services for various of those apps and media centers at once!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can you cast videos to SmartTube/TV?

That's the thing im missing from those apps and it seems its not possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

You can, I do it every week. Just link your TV to your phones YouTube app and cast.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Brand new alpha video player app already has background play, Floatplane devs in shambles

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

And if it ever gains much popularity, Youtube will find ways to break its ability to source videos from their platform.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Love the aggregation idea! Gonna check back onto it after some months, until then I'm sticking with good ol' Revanced.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Neat idea. I'm going to watch how this develops but I don't see it ever becoming much of a thing until there is iOS support. I'm not an iPhone user. Just realistic.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Almost no third party frontend supports iOS because of their absolutely shitty sideloading limitations and they still work great...

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Something about Louis just strikes me as extremely untrustworthy. I'm not sure what it is, but it's definitely there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

everything I've ever seen about the guy is legit. he works for consumer rights, if you want untrustworthy look at Apple.

[–] 31337 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

New York accent? I've occasionally watched his videos for years, and he seems to be a decent guy. He may be an asshole IRL for all I know, but generally supports stuff like right to repair, privacy, ad-blockers, etc. He's a business owner, so he's pro-business biased when consumers aren't being completely shafted. He's YouTuber, so he likely has narcissistic tendencies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Met him IRL. Super nice, but he's got a hard edge which might put people off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He might come off as edgy but honestly he's one of the few people I trust online. Dude did amaizing stuff with right to repair stuff too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I use inotia00's version of ReVanced, ReVanced Extended. It adds way more options for fine tuning

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Hmm. It works very well on my old Samsung phone but it crashes immediately on my current 1+ phone. It literally opens directly to the crash dump screen. Lmao. That said, using this on my old phone, it's already extremely well done. Having all of my video sources in one app is a great idea. Hope they fix the current issue so I can use it on my current phone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This idea has definitely been tried before and has consistently failed

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