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'I regularly travel in Europe and it's shown me how right Brexit was' (inews.co.uk)

submitted 10 months ago by bernieecclestoned to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Brexit has nothing to do with rising mortgages, interest rates and homeless people living in the middle of the street in tents. That’s not the real reason, it’s just what certain politicians want us to believe,” Ben told

Mentally challenged.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Or satire? Please tell me it's satire.

[+] bernieecclestoned -6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

He's right. All those things are due to either Tory incompetence or war effects

UK is no worse off than any peers

In fact, the future looks to be ok according to the imf. The economy has to slow next year to kill off inflation, but after that, and with a Labour government there are reasons to be cheerful. Time for Lexit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Solely looking at GDP says little about the impacts of Brexit, especially on the impact it has on individuals. While it tells us the UK fares well on production capacity and economic growth, it says little on the welfare and well being of her citizens.

There is of course a lot of disparity of the origins in the data, and Tory governing most likely have its effects as well.

Point is, GDP is not a good measure on whether things are looking bright for individuals.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

production capacity

No. Purely finance. The rest of the country exists solely to support the financial sector (by making it look like we're a country and not a tax haven with a massive casino).

[–] bernieecclestoned 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The forecasted measure that the OBR decided to use to judge the impact was GDP per capita though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was merely pointing out that GDP is a tool to look at the economy as a whole, but it can not visualise more specific trends or inequalities, let alone those caused by Brexit.

[–] bernieecclestoned 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If any have been caused by brexit. 95% of UK companies don't export to the EU after all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There are definitely effects on the British economy because of Brexit, just alone the loss in confidence in the British economy after the vote and the uncertainty following it.

[–] bernieecclestoned 1 points 10 months ago

Yep, a delay in investment. But just a delay, not actually any loss

[–] bernieecclestoned 1 points 10 months ago

They are so small they can't be discerned in the figures though. Especially when compared to covid and russian invasion

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not surprising, we make fuck all.

How many import from the EU?

[–] bernieecclestoned 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Still in the top ten globally for manufacturing

Yep, plenty import, still do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but Lexit is not a thing that can happen. It would be lovely but we live in this world right here and you're hanging your hat on fucking Starmer to save you?

[–] bernieecclestoned 1 points 10 months ago

It is though

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Can’t even the read the article. First there’s the cookie popup then another popup about subscribing and I couldn’t even find the x for getting rid of that overlay BS. Can’t be bothered to open this on a proper computer so that I could dissect the site to make it barely tolerable.

OP should have copied the text in here, because the devs who made the site appear to hate the users a bit too much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Same. Downvoted because of it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Archived copy: https://archive.ph/2023.10.16-112834/https://inews.co.uk/news/world/travel-europe-brexit-2680451

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

“I voted Leave because I believe the European institutions are not representative of the British people and their needs, they’re too distant, government and policies should be as local as possible,”

Didnt the UK promote many of those rules and could veto the ones it didnt like? I suppose this guy doesnt like the government in whitehall and would rather laws be specific to districts and whatnot then?