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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why don't you type the things instead of making us watch a click-bait video?

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

0:36 Gaming.
4:38 Microsoft Office.
5:31 Photoshop.
7:15 Ecosystem of Linux.
9:39 Hardware compatibility.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (14 children)
  • Proton & Lutris
  • Libreoffice & Nextcloud
  • G.I.M.P, Inkscape, Krita
  • It's cooler, more secure, more private, more trusting etc.
  • More compatible than Windows 11 that's for sure
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The first three boil down to, “If software that you need/want only develops for a specific OS, use that OS.”

It’s time we stop blaming linux for vendor choices.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gaming: Only if you're playing one of the VERY few games that doesn't run in Linux yet, and that number continues to drop rapidly. There's plenty of tools out there to make games work well in Linux.

Office: For basic things, there's a million and one office suites that work in Linux and you can even use Office 365 Online if you really need that Microsoft Office experience/compatibility. This is only valid if you or your company need specific add-ons that don't have any equivalent in other office suites. My own employer uses these, so in that instance, yes, I do need MS Office for those. But from what I know, still not an entirely common thing, and you can still get by with Linux compatible office suites for most things.

Photoshop: I don't work with images, but from what I understand this one has some validity, comparing the tools available in Photoshop vs the GIMP or other drawing tools. But that's just if you're doing some really advanced image editing.

Ecosystem: if this is just referring to the fact that most people don't use Linux, there are plenty of FOSS programs that work in both Windows and Linux and very few common file types that aren't mutually compatible.

Hardware: another instance that has greatly improved over time, and there hasn't been anything in years that I haven't had "just work" by plugging it in. If the proprietary drivers don't install, there's probably an open source driver out there to get your hardware running. Will admit that in some instances features may be more limited, depending on what the drivers will be able to do, but as I mentioned that's really getting better almost daily.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't have to be doing advanced work to notice the difference between GIMP and Photoshop. Working in GIMP is painful. Working in Photoshop is also painful, but at least you know your files will work with everyone else.

Try some audio hardware. Linux is still a fucking wasteland when it comes to that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A fraction of 1% of Windows users use Photoshop. 99.9% of users just crop and resize

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Which is utterly fucking irrelevant to the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gaming... yeah it's not like there's a dedicated portable hardware device for gaming that runs on Linux by default.

MS Office, well it's literally a Microsoft product so yeah, though O365 does work.

Photoshop I haven't tried in years to run on Linux but I wish haven't bothered with Photoshop in years period so...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

He does counter with Gimp tbf.

[–] JohnDClay 2 points 1 year ago

If you use the ecosystem of Linux you shouldn't use Linux? Does that mean if you're locked into a different ecosystem it may be harder?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone should use Linux, it's just whether or not they can use Linux.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Exactly. I installed Pop OS and I fucking loved it!

...Up to the point where playing games without Steam and being able to stably & reliably access my NAS through the local network is at best a pain in the ass to achieve let alone maintain, if not impossible.

(And yes I did use Lutris for the former. Couldn't even fucking get Dragon Age: Origins up and running.)

I still really miss Linux but if it's not gonna work for the two things I use a PC for the most, then hey what can a girl do? Lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am sorry but wut? https://www.protondb.com/app/47810 Also try to run it using project port proton https://github.com/Castro-Fidel/PortWINE About NAS need more info about ur configuration.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I am sorry but wut? https://www.protondb.com/app/47810

My reaction exactly (pretty much) except yeah it wouldn't even launch. It was the weirdest fucking thing ever. Maybe it was because I wasn't installing it through Steam. I was running the GOG release and installing it through Lutris.

Also try to run it using project port proton https://github.com/Castro-Fidel/PortWINE

I uh...already reinstalled Windows... ^^"

About NAS need more info about ur configuration.

I can do that!

The model is QNAP TS-453D, and all I wanted to do was access it via the file manager via the local network. Just like I would in Windows by going to Network in the sidebar.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The NAS thing is really weird, because that shit's what linux is really good at. Hell, your NAS probably has linux runningon it.

Unfortunately, that info is not enough to help you troubleshoot the problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The NAS thing is really weird, because that shit's what linux is really good at. Hell, your NAS probably has linux runningon it.

Kind of my thoughts exactly.

Unfortunately, that info is not enough to help you troubleshoot the problem.

What else do you need?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gog repacks usually work better than original games. ,what's ur videocard? Usually game not start in case if driver not installed or it's installed but it's too new for ur videocard it's related to proprietary driver of nvidia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nvidia RTX 2060.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

tl;dw: "If it does not deliver the exact same experience as Windows = don't bother."

Yeah....no.

t. Have 0 issues with the mentioned "issues" in the video. I use arch btw. :^)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/06cKL5DQ5CY?feature=shared

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I started my gaming experience (PC) with Linux. So I disagree.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Without knowing what you play, how many games would you say are as easy to install as under Windows and how many needed some additional encouragement?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for asking.

I am a very casual gamer, and at the beginning I might have struggled a bit with all the mechanics of Proton, Lutris etc etc.

When I look for games I usually double check on ProtonDB, if there is any fix to be applied. For this reason, I can say 95% of MY games are just install and play.

The only game I had a problem with was Skyrim, which needed a FPS limiter to avoid glitching at the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nowadays, with Steam, most games are just install-and-play. For non-Steam games, Lutris does a good job of handling the tedium, though it is an extra step vs installing on Windows. Other marketplaces/launchers are generally covered by some third-party alternative that has most of the relevant functionality.

So far, I haven't had any issues with any purchased games under Linux. If it doesn't run as-is after installing, it's just been a question of choosing Proton in a drop-down menu. I've been Linux-only for about two years now, and gaming used to be the only thing that kept me locked into Windows. That said, there are games that won't run at all under Linux, often due to anti-cheat software.

[–] TrojanHam 5 points 1 year ago

These videos exist for monetization purposes.

Does anyone know if one where to view videos through Piped, NewPipe, FreeTube, etc the view would count towards engagement?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right tool for the job. I was once a a nix fanboy in the beginning. Now, I don't really care. If I legitimately think it suits a particular issue or use-case I'll suggest it. But I also work for an MSP that, well, focuses on a lot of Microsoft services.

There are just things each environment has pros and cons for.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The con of one of then being "is a rootkit"

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