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[–] [email protected] 84 points 10 months ago (3 children)

CAPTCHAs have been broken for quite a while now.

Google’s reCAPTCHA in particular is terrible and I fail it about half the time trying to guess what it thinks counts as part of a bicycle or not.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I always found it kind of ironic that the tool used to prevent robot traffic, CAPTCHA, is also used as a data source train robots.

I don't want you getting through this lock, so I'm going to sit you down and meticulously teach you how to get through this lock...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What's even more ironic is that we basically don't need human data anymore to create AI that classify objects or detect their boundaries. With algorithms like DINO we don't even need labeled data at all, you just throw images at it and it learns on its own.

Google spent all this time collecting data through CAPTCHAs to train AI and now it might as well be obsolete.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

They are broken because AI is better at solving these capthcas than humans. They are only stopping those spammers who can't afford a gpu to break these catchas

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Have you de-Googled or something? They only really nail you when you don't have a signed-in Google account with real-world web usage, particularly if your connection originates from a flagged IP.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

Oh yes, how dare I visit a website without letting Google track me. Better block the user with a fake test in the name of security.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Some VPNs will definitely trigger reCaptcha, even if signed on to Google. I just have to hop over to another IP and suddenly everything is fine again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I've noticed I get the stupid recaptha way more since I swapped to Firefox. Even though I'm logged in to a Google account.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I get it a lot when I'm using our work VPN (which shows up as an AWS IP address). I guess if you're using a VPN or a less reputable ISP you'll probably get stung more often.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I've been liking cloudflare more and more over the years. They've been taking some genuinely big steps towards a more free, open, and private internet; them, alongside the Mozilla Foundation. Two big thumbs up :)

I've been running pihole for years, but recently put cloudflared behind it to translate all standard DNS traffic to DoH traffic after filtering but before leaving the LAN. Now I just gotta find a good way to implement DoH from client>pihole and devices can start using ECH while still receiving DNS adblock. This will make 100% of the traffic leaving my network encrypted :) (if the client wants it to be at least)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I get why people dislike them, because they definitely are a very overwhelming monopoly. But despite that, they really provide very essential tools that are very easily accessible and free. I do like them as a company, so I haven't been too worried by the fact they are a huge monopoly that dominates a big portion of the web. They've handled the responsibility pretty well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Google started this way too, just wait.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've been running pihole for years, but recently put cloudflared behind it to translate all standard DNS traffic to DoH traffic after filtering but before leaving the LAN.

I'd like to do this with my Pi-hole too. How did you do it?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Proton has introduced their own version of captcha as well — blog post

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sadly it doesn’t seem like anyone can use it on their own site

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah and I don't think they will release it for public use anytime soon

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I personally think cloudflare is a blessing in disguise.

I would much rather see a whole bunch of companies competing than a single company controlling everything

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So what type of challenge do you get when it doesn't think you're human then?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Terminator noises

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Me likes cloudflare