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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (3 children)

just looking at those two graphs in that article makes me sick...

who can wholeheartedly support isreal in this conflict?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

The willingly ignorant and/or blatantly xenophobic

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Christians mostly. Their book says the world can't end unless the Jews control the holy land. They can't enter heaven until the rapture, which happens at the end. No one wants to chill in the dirt for a millenia or two until they go to the good place so they do everything they can to hasten the end days and get to heaven sooner. But they're doing it for everyone, so it's totally not selfish. This is also why they can't leave uncontacted tribes alone, the rapture can't happen until every living soul has been offered salvation through christ, whether they accept it or not. Everyone knowing about Jesus divinity and jews in israel are two of the checklist items to end the game and be judged. So that's pretty much it, Christians support Israel because they literally want to end the world.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Funny how you seem to believe that the majority of christians even knows so many details about their own religion....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Ignorance is baked into the religion. Best way to become an atheist is to read the bible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Their book says the world can't end unless the Jews control the holy land.

It does?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I can't read the Washington Post one. It's paywalled. But I see you're referring to Zionists.

Matthew 21:43 disagrees with that.

As well as Matthew 23: 37, 38 - "37. Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her... 38 Look! Your house is abandoned to you."

Ancient Israel were the chosen people. But that was lost after they killed Jesus.

But some can still attain God's favour:

Romans 9:27 - "Moreover, Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Although the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved."

And Israel being the chosen people forever wouldn't be fair to everyone else. And that was never the intention:

Hebrews 8:6 - "But now Jesus has obtained a more excellent ministry because he is also the mediator of a correspondingly better covenant, which has been legally established on better promises."

The "better promises" is that "all men of all nations" could become one of God's people, not just Israelites/Jews.

I'm not trying to argue the validity of the Bible here, only pointing out that the Bible itself does not support any nation, after Jesus, to be God's chosen people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Not Palestinian Christians who are getting persecuted by Israel.

Or any Christian with a heart.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

can we please not speedrun rapture any%? The entire world population would like that :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I think the only reason people support either side in this conflict is because they hate the other.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

"Obviously, we would never want to hit or kill or shoot any journalist that is doing its job"

"Sadly we are also completely and utterly incompetent and so it happens again and again and again. And that's of course totally accidental every single time."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

"We were actually aiming for the Innocent women and children when this tragedy occurred"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Shireen Abu Akleh

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

What a bright and vivid democracy. I'm sure this will be condemned by other democracies that value press freedoms.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


An Associated Press photographer at the scene saw the body of Reuters videographer Issam Abdallah and saw some of the six who were wounded being rushed to hospitals in ambulances.

The agency said that Abdallah was part of a Reuters crew in southern Lebanon that was providing a live signal.

Reuters said that two of its journalists, Thaer Al-Sudani and Maher Nazeh, were wounded in the shelling in the border area.

Qatar's Al-Jazeera TV, said two of its employees, Elie Brakhya and reporter Carmen Joukhadar, also were among the wounded.

"We are urgently seeking more information, working with authorities in the region and supporting Issam's family and colleagues," Reuters said.

The shelling occurred during an exchange of fire along the Lebanon-Israel border between Israeli troops and members of Lebanon's militant Hezbollah group.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Fuck the fake state of Israel