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I want to know your opinions on the best distro that is convenient for laptops. Main reason is I want to really optimize hardware performance and more specifically battery life for my University classes. I also want to try a tiling manager as they seem perfect for laptops.

Things of note:

  • Convenience/Performance is key
  • My laptop is a Thinkpad E15 w/ 16 gb ram
  • On my home desktop I run Archlinux w/ Open box & no DE (I've been using Arch for years but haven't used another distro since Ubuntu in highschool)
  • I will likely dual boot with Windows 10 for Office
  • I want to run a tiling manager
  • I don't video game
  • I wont be using a mouse
  • I don't necessarily want to use Arch, want to try something new that I don't have to rely on AUR updates for certain software
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Pop!OS is great and ticks most of your boxes. Although, you'll likely have to read into the battery optimization.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I've had a pretty good time with PopOS. GNOME is a bit rough at times (handling window sizes, font size changes, monitor layout updates) and I only had DisplayLink driver issues, which is probably trivial for most personal users nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

🧌 NixOS 🧌

~ I use xmonad/polybar/rofi/dunst and you could just use my whole config and have it up and running in a day, deleting lines and adding others. ~

Fork it and modify mine to your preferences. I even made a custom typeface to add my favorite crypto logos to my Polybar.

[–] Steamymoomilk 2 points 1 year ago

YESS!!! I just switched from vanillaOS to Nix and its been a learning curve but if you screw up you just go back a generation and rebuild. And I haven't had any package manager BS like ubuntu.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow these seems really cool, good job and thanks for your contribution! I am gonna check it out!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Glad to help! I’m merely standing on the shoulders of the giants before me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this really makes nixOs so good because I can just make others do the hard work of configing it for me and use it 😂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Unless you want to run a stake pool on Cardano, you’d have to fork and modify my config.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

My understanding is that it's not really the disrto, but the software running on it that'd effect battery life and performance. Both Debian and Arch can come pretty bare bones on a blank install (Ubuntu and derivatives tend to come with a fair bit of stuff bundled out of the box).

I'd personally reccomend trying a Debian installation (I'd likely say use stable, but testing or sid are also options if you need quicker updates and don't care for flatpak/snap/appimage/distrobox). The installer plays nice with Windows, and you can skip installing a desktop during installation then CLI install a tiling window manager to really minimize 'bloat'.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you really need to dual boot for office?

I’m doing fine compatibility wise with the OnlyOffice flatpak. If you have a school account with Microsoft perhaps the PWA for Word, etc. will meet your needs.

For a laptop distro with a good tiling DE out of the box you might enjoy Pop!_OS.

[–] karlthemailman 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

File compatible is one thing, but I just can't get over the difference in shortcut keys/workflow.

Plus, creating and editing charts is still miles easier in excel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I've been switching my Excel tasks over to Python using Pandas and Matplotlib. Most of my data is .csv and OnlyOffice seems to handle large files just fine. LibreOffice Calc gives me issues with large files.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Add tlp package for battery life. And any major distro should be fine really

[–] marmalade 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Debian is solid. You probably don't want to have to fuck around on a laptop that you're using primarily for getting shit done. Flatpaks can handle most of the extra shit you'd want to use. That said, I used to be an Arch guy for years too, and if you're comfortable with it, it's fine to use, but you'll run into the same kind of annoyances. Not true breakage usually, but eventually I got tired of having new surprise bugs in shit that was working fine before.

Also I can't be sure, but I suspect Wayland is probably better on energy draw since it should be more efficient. Maybe try sway for your twm?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Not true breakage usually, but eventually I got tired of having new surprise bugs in shit that was working fine before.

yep, considering switching to nixos for this reason.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fedora and Debian are good choices. I've been using Fedora for more than 7 years and it's still going. Very stable like Debian yet up-to-date packages.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I've been running Debian for about 7 years as well, never an issue.* I use it for browsing, photo/video editing, coding, gaming with Steam with no complaints. Fedora has always been tempting for it's more up to date packages but Debian's usually have all the features I need.

*I have had self-induced issues by installing .debs from strange places but never with the default repos or even 3rd party repos.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

specifically battery life for my University classes

try undervolting your CPU/GPU. That was the first thing I did when I got my thinkpad and it improved the thermals and battery life significantly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Any guide for r3 3200?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hum, any guide you followed ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

just the readme for throttled

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Some thinkpads have official support for Ubuntu by the manufacturer (lenovo), which means battery optimizations out of the box, amongst other things. Might be relevant for your laptop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Why not something like Debian Testing?

[–] the_postminimalist 2 points 2 years ago

If you absolutely must use MS Office, and don't want to use any of the alternatives like LibreOffice that use the exact same file types, why not just run MS Office with Bottles? If that's the only reason for a dual boot, you probably don't need to dual boot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I liked using fedora Sway spin on my Dell XPS 13. Sway because it let's you utilise the screen space well and fedora spin because it came working out of the box, you can use it in any distro really.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed FTW. I've got an old T530 (2012) who's been happily on Tumbleweed since 2019.

Nowadays I use vanilla Gnome but had a very good experience with Awesome on the same setup. You may want to check the default Sway setup too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Fedora sway spin is also worth a look

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, the best distro I always recommend is Fedora Silverblue, especially the KDE version: Fedora Kinoite. I hate this naming scheme though.

Sadly Fedora is controlled by Red Hat and it may get killed off soon.

[–] Steamymoomilk 1 points 1 year ago

I used to enjoy fedora silver blue (daily drove on Lenovo t450) then I switches to Lenovo w540 I sniped of eBay and the DRIVERS ARE AWFUL FOR EVERY DISTRO. Tried manjaro, arch, gaurdua, Debian, Ubuntu its 22.4, Ubuntu 12 and fedora silver blue, and fedora the I tried nix and got the GPU working but the driver was so old I settled on windows (even though it pains me to use).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

In terms of optimization, Gentoo is the best you're gonna get, but the word "convenience" makes me hesitant to recommend it to you.

Arch is minimal, and has many resources/guides on battery optimization (Especially for ThinkPads), but if you'd like to learn something else, Void is the way to go.

If you're looking for a tiling WM, I can wholeheartedly recommend bspwm. Lots of control and customization, but pretty easy to configure when you understand it. Just know, it might be a hard change going from stacking to tiling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Arch is a barebones distro so it makes sense that you have one of the best battery life.

My old 2012 dell laptop is running Arch and so far : the battery which has been used extensively boasts ~2:30 of uptime (on KDE, no less!) compared to Win10 which has only ~1:25 or Fedora which gives me a meager ~1:15.

I cannot tell for OpenSuse because for whatever reason I can't even boot it on this PC. It was my main go-to distro before 2012.

Debian is also solid. I get almost ~2h of uptime.

I have also used Zorin OS which is nice but rather slow on older hardwares.

So overall go for Arch (again), Debian or take a wild guess at NixOS.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Try the 'tlp' command on whatever distro you end up with. It really help with battery optimization. I'm a big Linux mint fan all of my laptops have always had it never had any compatability or driver issues with mint. Something I would maybe recommend is buying some external thinkpad batteries for the laptop off the internet. Else you can buy a big rechargeable car jumper batter pack with 12vdc car output and a car plug charger for laptop.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess you can run fedora if you want full features of a laptop. Im currently running LMDE5, is rock solid for me this past 2+ years, upgraded seamlessly from LMDE4. I guess LMDE6 will be released soon after LM 21.2 is released. I do think that at the end of the day , whatever you choose, you can change your desktop environment so it suites you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you do use any debian distro, nala is a great way to update your packages.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

fedora with gnome (fedora workspaces) is what i use rn :) used the xfce flavor, kde plasma one, and neither of them gave me everything i desired out of them like gnome did. gnome seems to have the leaast amount of small graphical bugs. also fedora is the shit overall, top 3 distros for sure.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Popos. Surprised no one has said it.

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