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What is your favorite comic, that one you've read over and over again that has a special place in your heart?

Mine would be Peter Milligan and Mike Allred's X-Force/X-Statix. I love how wacky and over the top the story is, and I can't help but fall in love with the characters despite them being total scumbags. And of course, I can never get enough of Mike Allred's amazing pop art style brought to life by Laura Allred's colors. X-Force 124, the Darwyn Cooke fill-in issue that tells Edie Sawyer's origin story, is up there for one of the best single issues I've ever read.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has a special place in my heart, but we're a bit odd about the Disney thing over here. It was initially released in Scandinavia then ported to English.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Life_and_Times_of_Scrooge_McDuck

[–] ElementaryTopos 1 points 1 year ago

Why this? Nostalgia? I always wondered who read scrooge mcduck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neil Gaiman's Sandman and its spinoff Lucifer. (if it's made by Gaiman, I can be quite sure I'll love it, no matter the media)

I'm not even generally speaking that much into comics, but the art and dreamlike storytelling in Sandman are irresistible. I've never really seen someone tell stories in that manner... individual strands that are then woven into something great in ways I would have never thought of.

Lucifer has really interesting philosophical themes and the way myths are mixed into reality always intrigues me. I also find the main character and story compelling. I might even enjoy it more than Sandman, even if it isn't as unique.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ditto for Sandman, probably one of the best uses of the ongoing comic series medium. I'd also add BLAST by Manu Larcenet among my favorite ever.

Is Lucifer as good as Sandman?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think I've even heard of BLAST, I'll keep it in mind.

I personally preferred Lucifer over Sandman. It did lack some of Sandman's uniqueness, but still has plenty of things of its own. It's a bit similar to the American Gods perhaps, exploring the world of gods and myth... just from a very different point of view. And as much as I enjoy following the depressed anthropomorphic embodiment of an abstract concept, the ambitious and cunning fallen angel does often end up being a more compelling main character.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Larcenet is one of the most prominent current French comic book artists - and BLAST has probably been his most groundbreaking work.

I really enjoyed both Sandman and American Gods, I'll have to dive into Lucifer as well! I just checked it out and the whole run was not written by Gaiman apparently, but by Mike Carey.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh you're correct! I had completely forgotten it wasn't written by Gaiman, it has been a while since I read it. No wonder I remember it being so different from Sandman in style...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The 90's adjectiveless X-Men. Jim Lee's art was amazing in that series, and it introduced one of my favorite villains: Omega Red.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Alan Moore/Jamie Delano/Alan Davis Captain Britian run is always going to be a favourite of mine. Mainly as it's one of the first books I read a whole run through and also it's Moores only extended work for Marvel. I wish they would reprint in in the OG B+W art rather than coloured.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it possible to read on Marvel's unlimited online subscription? I've HEARD about Cap Britain but, being American, he's always been a fairly obscure "sword to Cap America's shield" if that makes sense?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They don't appear to have the Moore stuff unfortunately.

They have the OG silver age stuff https://share.marvel.com/sharing/series/drn:src:marvel:unison::prod:56496551-b346-4fdf-8e18-5f7690ca47c0

Then the Jamie Delano/Alan Davis run that follows the Moore run Captain Britain (1985 - 1986) https://share.marvel.com/sharing/series/drn:src:marvel:unison::prod:a39dc747-2134-4ea9-a0bb-c0270ba3f703 via Marvel App

Excalibur which was an X-Men off shoot he lead Excalibur (1988 - 1998) https://share.marvel.com/sharing/series/drn:src:marvel:unison::prod:d9a97d04-bf39-4a70-8878-87ad67d8ffe5 via Marvel App

New Excalibur (2005 - 2007) https://share.marvel.com/sharing/series/drn:src:marvel:unison::prod:bd706445-374c-4653-b319-e902741b43c6 via Marvel App

And MI:13 Captain Britain and MI: 13 (2008 - 2009) https://share.marvel.com/sharing/series/drn:src:marvel:unison::prod:1617d9dc-e9a3-4aa5-963b-09eb52fe8d6d via Marvel App

I guess Moore is hard to get to agree to re-releases. They did do an omnibus at one point and in the 90s it was reprinted as part of X-Men Archives. All the reprints are in colour unfortunately as the OG was B&W and better for it in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

If by comic, we mean series, then Thunderbolts issues 1-12.

If we mean a specific book, then book #4 of that series.

The whole vibe is just great. Classic Avengers style stories. Deeper dives into the motives and lives of classic villains. Crazy gadgets and gimicks. A huge wild finale that made it really hard to get a copy of issue 11.