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so i think im going to go back (latte.isnot.coffee)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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welp fellas,

after working shitty corporate jobs in America, making well above the nation and local average, i somehow have less money than i did working bullshit jobs in china. Life here kind of sucks, and while there are many beautiful places in America, i don't get to see them because im stuck at this shitty job all the time. I don't even see my family any more than i would if i lived in China.

So.

I have a walk on spot at an easy breezy university job, what do you think? Go back to china and live the easy life, but have to deal with their pain in the ass government, or stay in america and live a safer life, but have to deal with my pain in the ass job.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I imagine the breezy university job probably refers to university outside of major cities? Or is major city job also chill?

Recently I find major city in China are quickly catching up to the U.S. in terms of living cost. But I imagine you can still live a good life in smaller cities like 重庆, 昆明 etc.

Personally I don't prefer to live in China because:

I will very likely to always have the opportunity to live there, they are not going to kick me out (probably, if I talk less shit about them? To be fair, I talk shit about all the countries I have lived in.)
Global internet is a huge deal for me. I rely on Wikipedia, YouTube, mastodon, Lemmy, and Signal. Also updating my OS will also be annoying, as AWS is blocked.
I really hope they don't month-long reenact mass lockdown again. Probably not for COVID, but who knows when the next disaster will strick.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Aren't university jobs very badly paid?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

dude COVID was such a pain in the ass in china, i came back at the end of it after it was pretty much over in america, so i dont know what it was like here, but in china it was pretty annoying. luckily i lived in shenzhen though, so it wasn't that bad, just, really annoying

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It certainly wasn't as strict by a long shot but at least for me it was a very stressful period but for the opposite reason.

People were absolute assholes to each other and were making rancid jokes about people dying and actively and openly sabotaging government attempts to prevent spread and deaths.

And the government fucked up on so many levels, it really made me lose faith in our collective ability to solve difficult problems like climate change.

In China people died in front of hospitals due to insane rules and outside of China people died in hospitals due to lack of care and lack of rules.

An elderly lady (not very old, around 60), I knew, broke her leg in April 2020, caught Covid in the hospital and died. And my grandparents were in a retirement home and somehow survived even though they were both around 90 but there were 3 major outbreaks killing over half of the people in there.

So it seems it sucked everywhere, aside from Taiwan and New Zealand perhaps?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

good to be an island nation in a pandemic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah being on an island does make it easier but it still requires good governance. The UK being a prime example of an island nation performing badly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you should make sure you can leave whenever you want. Look into the growing movement south in the US. WFH will become a real thing, I think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

WFH is not an option for me at my current company, even though i just shit around an excel and various adobe apps. I need to be in the warehouse about 15% of the time but they want me in this warehouse on a computer 100% of the time. and i spent a LOT of money relocating thinking that this salary is massive and i'll make the money back easily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then just make sure you can leave China whenever you want. You're probably American.. But you likely won't be targeted but remember that could change fairly quickly.

I don't know. China's a hole but if you earn in the higher brackets (you do, by default) then it's obviously convenient.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

yeah, thats the dilemma. although, i will say, after spending the last 6 months east of LA in the inland empire, its just as much of a hole as china is, as shitty as with worst parts of dongguan, except minus the public transportation and a lot more homeless and violent crime. It just is what it is.

China is convenient, but the constant threat that the government could one day take you away and lock you up in a light without so much as letting you know why is always looming

[–] jcocoa 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you could try to find a new job out before moving back to China. Plenty of jobs out there right now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i already sunk too much into moving to the inland empire (massive mistake) if had to give that up and start over AGAIN i would rather just do it in china where it's cheap, east, and there is a built in social network for expats

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have had more issues with connections outside of China recently. That means whether you're using a VPN or not, sometimes the network just sucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which one gets in your way less, the government or the job?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh for sure the government gets in my way less. i only have to deal with them a few times a year for visa, banking, and when i enter/exit the country, but they do scare the heck out of me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The government can be a lot more unstable as we saw in 2020, people left because the balance went way too far on the government being more of a pain in the arse. Will they do that again? Who knows...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

exactly. i was there, it was very annoying and kind of scary. But ah, i do miss the easy life

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Is there no way to get a decent job? Perhaps with some aditional education or something?

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