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TL;DR: LLMs are just mimicking natural language and conversation. Fact checking and healthy skepticism is not part of their model. For example they can be easily tricked into advocating conspiracy theories, like a fake moon landing. Google Bard is even stating arithmetic falsehoods like 5*6 != 30

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The only use so far with any value (moral or factual) seems to be insane entertainment. I can't stop having a chuckle of the Harry Squatter videos and interactions people have with Neuro-sama.

I think trying to use this for anything even remotely factual is just asking for a paddlin'.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seems more like different people expect it to behave differently. I mean the statement that it isn't intelligent because it can be made to believe conspiracy theories would apply equally to humans would it not?

I'm having a blast using it to write descriptions for characters and locations for my Savage Worlds game. It can even roll up an NPC for you. It's fantastic for helping to fill in details. I.e. I embrace it's hallucinations.

For work (programmer) it also acts like a contextually aware search engine that I can correct. It's like peer to peer programming with a genius grad. Yesterday I had it help me out writing a vim keymap to open a url for a Qt class and that's pretty obscure.

It is setup to accept your input as fact, so if you give it the premise that 5*6 != 30, it'll use that as a basis.

For a 3rd gen baby AI I'm not complaining.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not intelligent, but it's very agreeable, which is all it takes to lead people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is what I keep telling my friends who use them to 'write research papers/articles'. It's just a bunch of bs, that I don't trust.

Thanks, but I'm going to continue to research and lookup my own info.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried to use ChatGPT help speed up my writing, like I tried using "give me a brief history of Queen Dido's relationship with Caesar" when working on a character inspired by Queen Dido and then it gave me completely false information relating to some other historical figure.

Until it can get more trustworthy in that regard I'm not sure how effective it is for writing assistance let alone writing the entire paper by itself.

[–] liontigerwings 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This might sound funny but try bing chat instead. Chat gpt uses 3.5 which is prone to hallucination as they call it. Bing uses gpt4 and also shows sources. I found it to be generally better at everything, especially since it has access to the Internet. You can look up stuff past 2021

Edit: bings response. I have no clue if it’s right or not you tell me.

Queen Dido was the founder and first queen of the Phoenician city-state of Carthage. She lived in the 8th century BC. Julius Caesar was a Roman general and statesman who lived in the 1st century BC. There is no historical evidence that suggests that Queen Dido had any relationship with Julius Caesar. However, there are many stories and legends about Queen Dido's life and her relationship with Aeneas, a Trojan hero who founded Rome. Would you like me to look up more information about Queen Dido or Julius Caesar?

Source: Conversation with Bing, 6/13/2023 (1) The Truth About Princess Diana's Relationship With Dodi Fayed. https://www.grunge.com/649740/the-truth-about-princess-dianas-relationship-with-dodi-fayed/. (2) Dido - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dido. (3) Dido Character Analysis in The Aeneid | SparkNotes. https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/aeneid/character/dido/. (4) Dido - CliffsNotes. https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/a/aeneid/character-analysis/dido.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's better than ChatGPT, thanks for the suggestion! I'll definitely give it a shot! lol

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

not sure what you're saying here. are you claiming it can't do any sort of reasoning or open-ended problem solving?

i think we're fairly confident now that they can do structured reasoning to some degree. it is not flawless in that it might not give you real or accurate information every time, but we are also figuring out the contexts behind that. as for spreading misinformation, anything intentional prompted to be incorrect is irrelevant to gauging intelligence. unintentional results don't necessarily mean it's unintelligent either.

there's a really good document on this aspect as well.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/D7PumeYTDPfBTp3i7/the-waluigi-effect-mega-post

there are a lot of ethical and technical aspects of LLMs that are severely underdeveloped, but that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. i don't think any of that would suggest that it's reasonable to disregard the absurd pace of development this past decade, and last few years especially. good thing we have a sudden surge of attention towards developing these things.

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