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What I think could make Lemmy superior to Reddit is the ability to create themed-instances that are all linked together which feels like the entire point. I've noticed that a lot of instances are trying to be a catch-all Reddit replacement by imitating specific subs which is understandable given the circumstances but seems like it's not taking advantage of the full power that Lemmy could have.

Imagine for a moment that instances were more focus-based. Instead of having communities that are all mostly unrelated we had entire instances that are focused on one specific area of expertise or interest. Imagine a LOTR instance that had many sub-communities (in this case "communities" would be the wrong way to look at it, it would be more like categories) that dealt with different subjects in the LOTR universe: books, movies, lore, gaming, art, etc all in the same instance.

Imagine the types of instances that could be created with more granular categories within to better guide conversations: Baseball, Cars, Comics, Movies, Tech etc.

A tech instance could have dedicated communities for news, programming, dev, IT, Microsoft, Apple, iOS, linux. Or you could make it even more granular by having a dedicated instance for each of those because there's so many categories that could be applied to each.

What are your thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think this is definitely the right approach and would greatly help adoption. There’s so much potential for overlap under the current model (10 different communities for one sports team, for instance) and trying to just be a federated Reddit misses the mark IMO.

I took this approach with Magic: the Gathering at https://mtgzone.com which is just focused on MTG and has communities specific to the formats and interests areas within the game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think, in time, those will come organically. Maybe those communities won't be purpose built to be dedicated to a single topic, but despite federation I wouldn't be surprised if instances popped up with rules about topics discussed. Still federated, but communities within themselves will be regulated somewhat.

I'm not sure how to feel about this, maybe it's just the time I spent on reddit has jaded me, but there's divisive topics that I'm not sure would do well if housed within the same instance without coming down to name calling and unsavoury behaviour. A reddit example, early days r/lowsodiumcyberpunk2077 and r/cyberpunk 2077, both held extremely differing opinions. An even worse example because politics got into the mix, r/thelastofus and r/thelastofus2. If mods keep on top of it with good rules set in place and are enforced, could be good.

I'm not sure either if forcing topics to newly deployed instances is a realistic path, either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

AI and machine learning tech instance over here looking for members. ran themed communities BEFORE reddit and slashdot, doing it again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw the scramble exodus from twitter to fedi, specifcally mastodon, when elon took over, give it time, when it first happened the Main instance Mastodon.social was swarmed aswell as the instances listed in mastodons Website at the time, over time more instances popped up with themes, im aware of lemmy-php which uses phpbb What doomed lemmy migration is how short the Protest is, over the 3 month Period with twitter fediverse microblogging adapted, just as reddit Corp will ride the wave so will lemmy with minor change, what needs to happen is the suggested "indefinite Protest" it will make lemmy instances pop up with themes, and smaller instances contributing to federation Themed instances already include lemmygrad.ml

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You really need to use better grammar and punctuation, my dude… That was a rough read.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry for no reply but I do not really know english grammar

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really think we need a rule to it. And honestly, what about when themes overlap? Do we get dividing communities just because?

Also, it would just promote an echo chamber like Twitter.

Communities does what you want already. In time, some will pop off and become the popular ones. Maybe some will be split because of users not agreeing with something, but that already happened on Reddit as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with you. I think the best thing we can really do is just sit back and let things develop naturally

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like is not necessary because you can subscribe and communicate to subLems from basically anywhere. We're right now 2 users from 2 different instances talking at a subLem originate at a 3rd instance, but does it even matter? As long as everything's federated it (basically) doesn't matter where you're account is from, and what subLems are originate from your instance. That's the whole beauty of the fediverse.

PS, I do glad that lemmygard implemented your idea, so because my instance defederate them I don't have to see those guys ever again (they're the reason I ditched my lemmy.ml account long ago).

[–] socialjusticewizard 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are some good reasons to do it. You can basically recreate the classic forum experience. Say you want to make an all purposes Blades in the Dark community. You could just make /c/bladesinthedark in your favourite instance, but you could also make mybladesinthedark.org/c/generaldiscussion, /c/characterart, /c/gamestories, /c/playbypost, even /c/offtopic, and restrict the creation of new communities to mods, or to admins with an @mybladesinthedark.org account, or something like that. Maybe mybladesinthedark.org is owned by the company that publishes bitd, allowing them to create a series of "official" communities linked under the lemmy network but still locally managed.

IMO this is a pretty powerful tool, and while I don't think it should be the standard, it definitely does ad d cool value that competitors lack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get your point, but you could get the same effect with c/subject_subsubject. I guess it's to the people to decide.

One point against creating a brand new instance i think is that u might miss a lot of good content from other subLems at other instances that exist before someone from your instance sub to that subLem. But it's a pros and cons game like everything in life.

[–] socialjusticewizard 1 points 1 year ago

I'd imagine that this hypothetical forum-instance would be such that the only people with an @myforum.whatever login would be admins/mods of that specific forum, at least that's how I'd run it. It'd be designed to be visited to, not visited from. The advantage is only that it creates a linked identity, so it's easy for someone to find all the myforum.whatever topical areas by going to the front page, instead of trying to seek them out through sidebar links. From a "brand management" perspective, though, it gives the owner of that forum essentially full independent control of how they operate, and I think that's really strong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If I want to post here: https://lemmy.world/post/108806?scrollToComments=true with my lemmi.ml login, how do I do that?

(Also how do I log in to lemmy.ml on ios, safari just gives me endless loading upon clicking the login button)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think more regional / city instances would be great. Seems like a natural way to consolidate activity around local content, meetups, activism, etc etc while also staying totally connected to everything else

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's actually a great idea

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only if we get the ability to block instances as users.

There are quite a lot of posts on my Hot page in languages I don't speak. It'd be nice to be able to block instances that mostly communicate in languages I don't speak anyways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can select which languages you want to see in your Lemmy settings. Of course, this currently require people to tag their post with the correct language.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is not happening right now. I ha r three languages selected, I still get tons of other languages in my feed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think it's because most people don't select a language. Hopefully one day Lemmy will automatically detect the language, or let us select a default one :)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Currently users of Lemmy are "power users". The fact that power users can't even work out how to use Lemmy 'properly' is sign of its future

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's a term that broadly refers to people with more experience in a technology and more ability to extract use from it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, unlike youtube, Lemmy has a lot of refined competition already for people to jump to out of frustration

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What competition? Do you have links?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
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