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I believe that the addition of an edit history would be a massive boon to the usefulness of Lemmy on the whole. A common problem with forums is the relatively low level of trust that users can have in another's content. When one has the ability to edit their posts, and comments this invites the possibility of misleading the reader -- for example, one can create a comment, then, after gaining likes, and comments, reword the comment to either destroy the usefulness of the thread on the whole, or mislead a future reader. The addition of an edit history would solve this issue.

Lemmy already tracks that a post was edited (I point your attention to the little pencil icon that you see in a posts header in the browser version of the lemmy-ui). What I am describing is the expansion of this feature. The format that I have envisioned is something very similar to what Element does. For example:

What this image is depicting is a visual of what parts of the post were changed at the time that it was edited, and a complete history of every edit made to the post -- sort of like a "git diff".

I would love to hear the feedback of all Lemmings on this idea for a feature -- concerns, suggestions, praise, criticisms, or anything else!


This post is the result of the current (2023-10-03T07:37Z) status of this GitHub post. It was closed by a maintainer/dev of the Lemmy repo. I personally don't think that the issue got enough attention, or input, so I am posting it here in an attempt to open it up to a potentially wider audience.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

Editing a post may be to remove the password or email address you accidentally copy pasted in, or removing some potentially doxxing information, or one of many reasons you want that content gone. Github has edit history, but it also allows users to delete revisions so it seems your main concern would not be resolved by this implementation.

And as you point out, there is already a message that says the post was edited and what time.

Overall I don't see that the benefits outweigh the new issues caused.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You could make it so there is a checkbox for deleting the edit history, so only the fact that it has been edited remains.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

To draw attention to an edit, for example to correct an erroneous statement, use a combination of strikethrough and bold (or italic if more appropriate):

Joe Hill, who wrote songs about union organizing, was framed and ~~hung~~ executed by firing squad by the state of Utah in 1915.

Joe Hill, who wrote songs about union organizing, was framed and ~~hung~~ **executed by firing squad** by the state of Utah in 1915.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah, never liked the feature, wouldn't appreciate it here.

Side note, external images can be embedded in markdown like this:

![alt description](https://example.com/cool-image.png)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Nah, never liked the feature, wouldn’t appreciate it here.

Would you mind elaborating on why you feel that way?

Side note, external images can be embedded in markdown like this:

![alt description](https://example.com/cool-image.png)

Thank you for that info! I'll update my post.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

It adds nothing to the discussion. Use cases where it would have been useful I can count with my fingers. I made many more edits due to typos and brain-farts (that made the sentence look like I just learned English yesterday) than that.

Edit: Also, I'm hosting my own instance (for others as well) and the (unoptimized) storage use is already huge. No need to pay for something I don't really care about.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's not something I would care about or ever use. It comes with significant unresolved problems already pointed out, and it mostly just seems like you want it for reasons of idle curiosity or paranoia.

Most importantly, if a lemmy dev already said no, and you aren't willing to do the work, then it's dead, and opening a thread about it isn't a helpful way of fixing that.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Personally I like the idea of that history simply because I have seen people go back and edit their posts, as a form of trolling by getting into an argument with someone, and then changing their posts to completely obfuscate what the argument was about

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I actually don't think it is required to trust people on a forum in the way you suggest.

If I was in what I perceived to be a really high stakes discussion (read: flamewar) where I was worried about this, I would take my own measures to ensure I could "trust" the other parties. I would save my own copies locally. Reddit RES had a button you could add client side for just this kind of petty bullshit. If you really want the feature, implement it in your browser/device.

Really though friend, try to have a bit of a sense of humor and distance from your online posting and interactions with unknown people. If someone is going to such lengths as to edit their post so it looks like you are responding to something else to make you look bad, it is either: a) a boring joke, or b) they are really pathetic and sad trying to sabotage you. Either way, it's not the end of the world. If it sticks in your craw, you can just go edit your comment to say "edit: the comment to which I am replied was substantially edited after I posted so what I said no longer applies". You can either delete what you said, or correct it, or leave it as-is with a caveat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Your post made me realize that I haven't heard the word "flamewar" in a long while.

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[–] mindbleach 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really appreciated reddit's ninja-edit window, where you had about three minutes to fix typos and grammatical errors without getting the this-was-edited indicator.

The root shortcoming is that changing one letter gets the same flag as replacing the whole comment or adding a wall of text.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The root shortcoming is that changing one letter gets the same flag as replacing the whole comment or adding a wall of text.

Fair point.

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