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I'm currently still using gmail unfortunately

Cock.li (airmail.cc)looks very nice but it is invite only

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I use Protonmail as they offer quite a bit of privacy, offer lots of features, and are free. I particularly like that they protect from tracking pixels notifying the sender you read their email.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Proton gang checking in. So much so that I pay them 😊 (actually needed paid features)

[–] akilou 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Same. Proton gang.

I have plenty to criticize about their lack of creature comforts, but alas.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah.... I love proton but their android app also needs work. They'll get there!

[–] akilou 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the Android app is total garbage.

I don't know if it'll ever "get there" because they've not demonstrated that they're putting in any effort at all. It's currently on version 3.0.16. According to ApkMirror, they released 3.0.1 in June of 2022. So that's over a year of "stability improvements and bug fixes". Meanwhile they launched Proton Pass, Proton captcha, desktop clients for Drive, introducing new plans, etc.

Honestly, I just want threaded conversations on mobile.

[–] lustrum 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They released the rewrite as a beta apk at the weekend for testers. So it's definitely going somewhere.

It's faster and has conversations on the app too.

https://proton.me/support/mail-android-beta

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/16veha9/join_the_new_proton_mail_beta_on_android/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Indeed, same here but while using my own domain name, this way if some day, for whatever reason, either they go "bad" or I find "better" I can switch without much worry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Protonmail and SimpleLogin has been a great combo.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Posteo.de - 100% renewable energy. Full industry standard encryption. No tracking, no adds. Annual transparency report. Supporting social and environmental efforts. Great treatment of their employees.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Is self hosting a valid answer?

I host my own email.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I'm oldschool.

I've had my own domains and mail servers for the past 3 decades and will maintain them for as long as I live.

And these days, all but the storage runs of Pi3, so it's barely using any power either.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Fastmail - not too expensive, really good webmail client, has working shared calendar that isn't OWA, and isn't advertising scraping my e-mail. I would have liked a more private service, but back when I moved from self hosted to a service, that was about the best I could get that also had calendaring.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Any email with cock in the name will trigger filtering. It also has the side effect of making me unemployable

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Proton (free - 1GB storage, 500MB before doing 4 "tasks") for family, friends, and business types uses, although I'd rather have an integrated calendar (instead of it being a separate app).

Tutanota (free - 1GB storage) for bills, purchases, etc., basically everything else, because I'm never going to say "my email is [email protected]" to anyone I know, especially business acquaintances. So far, I like Tutanota more than Proton, especially the integrated calendar, but that name...... sounds like something my mother or grandparents were scammed into using.

On desktop, I'm currently using Thunderbird (TB) for a couple of older gmail accounts (in the process of transitioning away from), although I hate the recent update to TB. Haven't tried the Tutanota desktop app yet, but web version of email & calendar work adequately. Maybe I'll transition from TB now, after their recent changes.

Considered mailbox.org, but I'm not going to pay for it (no free version), especially when they don't at least have a cell app. Skiff may be worth looking at. Can't recall why I didn't try them.

EDIT: I've now installed Skiff (free - 10GB) as well and liking it so far. Using webmail seems easy and straight forward, cell app looks about the same (but haven't spent too much time on it yet). REALLY like that you basically get 4 email accounts (1 main and 3 alias account names), which is different than Tutanota and Proton. With the different aliases, this gives me an option to use Skiff for everything (if I choose to "put everything in one basket" at some point). Skiff sounds a little better than "Tuta" for business acquaintances as well, but not by much. No integrated calendar, but significantly larger storage is a plus.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tried Proton, even paid for a year. But hot damn the Android app is garbage. So I've moved to Fastmail and I like it a lot. The app is snappy and I love that it has calendar, contacts, mail, notes, and files storage all in the same app. I used a custom domain with Proton so wasn't hard to switch to a different provider. Just wish I would've known how bad the mobile app was before I plunked down the money.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are rewriting android app from scratch rn

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've heard that. Boy does it need it. But I'll admit I don't like that their focus seems to be on introducing new products instead of making their existing lineup more reliable/performant. And not making many strides in the Linux world.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I use protonmail, simplelogin (for email aliases) and tutanota.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This one isn't for daily private use, more like a throwaway email service for when sites and services have no earthly business asking your email other than to track you and send junk mail...

dispostable.com

Edit: You don't even have to register an account with them, just make up an email with them and it should just work for most sites.

I use irrelevant at dispostable dot com to use Walmart's free WiFi, the password on Walmart's side is Walmart1 hahahaha!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m gonna steal your walmart wifi

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://bugmenot.com/

this is a sometimes useful website for sharing logins - especially for websies that shouldn't need logins.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

LOL, go for it, I gave Walmart the name 'Anonymous Human', as if I was gonna give them a real name.. πŸ˜‚πŸ€£

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Protonmail, but not really because of encryption. I just liked their Android client and webmail the most. I've had sensitive backups on Proton Drive for a long time, so that also played a role in the choice.

I hosted my own server for quite a few years, but the SMTP clients (Thunderbird, Evolution, K9 mail) all doing things slightly differently made me give up. Biggest push was that K9 mail didn't really move deleted mail to trash. These were probably dovecot configuration issues, but I got tired of searching for solutions. Never had any deliverability issues.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Purely mail.

$10/year.

Every provider out there encrypts mail at rest. You're exchanging emails with Gmail, Yahoo or Hotmail anyway. Pretending like your email is any safer with Proton or clones is a waste of money imho.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Tutanota. I used to use Proton, but they don’t encrypt folder names, which is a deal breaker. Tutanota does, and they’re also a privacy respecting, reputable, decent service.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I use runbox. It costs money, but is affordable. They also take privacy and security seriously, and they take steps to help the environment when possible.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

any competently run service that gets you away from the tech conglomerates will work

fuck proton mail, bring your own encryption

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Selfhosted mail-in-a-box solution. Easy to maintain and configure.

  • It just works
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm in the process of migrating to Proton from Gmail and Outlook. All 4 mailboxes imported, now just the tedious job of updating credentials on all the websites remains...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Paid Proton Mail with my own domain name and own PGP keypair. Although it now has a way to securely search mail, I use the bridge service to allow Betterbird mail to sync my mail to my PC for searching.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Haven't seen his answer here yet, but I use Zoho. It has a free tier IIRC and supports custom domain.

Not sure how private it is, tho.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use Tutanota I think it's a really good private email client.

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