this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2023
230 points (95.6% liked)

Technology

34984 readers
249 users here now

This is the official technology community of Lemmy.ml for all news related to creation and use of technology, and to facilitate civil, meaningful discussion around it.


Ask in DM before posting product reviews or ads. All such posts otherwise are subject to removal.


Rules:

1: All Lemmy rules apply

2: Do not post low effort posts

3: NEVER post naziped*gore stuff

4: Always post article URLs or their archived version URLs as sources, NOT screenshots. Help the blind users.

5: personal rants of Big Tech CEOs like Elon Musk are unwelcome (does not include posts about their companies affecting wide range of people)

6: no advertisement posts unless verified as legitimate and non-exploitative/non-consumerist

7: crypto related posts, unless essential, are disallowed

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
all 48 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's a lot of iconic problems Apple has had with product launches in the past (attenna-gate and butterfly keyboards are some of the most obvious recent ones), but I cannot for the life of me understand how something like this slips through in 2023. They must have a thermodynamics team that helped engineer the chassis, and the SoC team must know the thermal output of their chip. Did they just not test the device?

[–] glimpseintotheshit 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, you would also think they must have had someone with two thumbs who would be able to bend it slightly...

https://piped.video/watch?v=IS0SItAzEXg

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

This isn't even the first time an iPhone has had this exact issue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] glimpseintotheshit 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is piped not functional? Personally don't use it but thought that's what people use on here

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve only ever gotten one video to play on it. It’s fine, I googled the title and was able to find the video. The guy doing that tear down is awesome btw! I can’t deny I winced a few times while watching it.

[–] glimpseintotheshit 3 points 1 year ago

Got it, gonna post YT links from now on, that piped bot seems to handle them anyway.

And yes, Zach is awesome! Highly recommend checking out his channel before you buy new phones. Or just from time to time for the entertainment factor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Next time just replace piped.video (or other) with youtube.com.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's what one bot keeps spamming, and it doesn't really work. The videos never play for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://youtu.be/IS0SItAzEXg?feature=shared

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Well where do you think your 2000 dollar goes? The product? Ha. Apple is and was a scam for a decade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does piped not work on mobile browsers? I've never been able to play a single video on Firefox on Android.

[–] glimpseintotheshit 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It works fine on iOS, are you using Googles DNS? Maybe they're blocking it...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use cloudflare for DNS. Site opens just fine, but videos never play.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It was probably just cheaper / greater profit margin

[–] Aurenkin 1 points 1 year ago

I just don't understand. The phone was thoroughly tested for a range of extreme real world use cases in our state of the art lab in the Arctic.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

The article picture alone is gold.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish overheating was the only problem.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is expected if they kept the same N4 node and raised the frequency. Giving that A17 is using TSMC N3E node with raised frequency, this is odd. Or this is -maybe- the silicon lottery due to immature production? Or thermal conductivity of titanium to blame? Effectively keeping the heat inside. This could be really bad for the battery. They don't like the heat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Or thermal conductivity of titanium to blame?

This is what two industry pundits cited on a podcast. I figure they probably know. Neither seemed concerned based on their own iPhones 15 Pro.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's probably happening during atmospheric reentry considering they're shipped in from the outer edges of the solar system.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You have to sell a new phone every 12-18 months, because otherwise the shareholders eat you alive for not chasing infinite profits. You have to differentiate your new phone from your last phone, even if there are no meaningful changes to be made and the last phone was good enough for everything anyone would ever use it for (as was the one before it, and the one before that, and etc etc). You have to push for people to buy the new phone, because otherwise you don't make money.

So you tell the engineers to bump up the clock speeds on the processor 5-10% so you can market it as being faster. You market the phone as being revolutionary for using the USB connector that was forced on you by regulators because your proprietary one was filling landfills with e-waste and pretend like it was your brilliant idea all along. You make sure to limit that USB connector to speeds that were outdated 10 years ago purely so you have a built-in 'upgrade' for your next phone where you fix the thing that shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

And then you realize your phone overheats because you overclocked the processor, all to squeeze extra performance out of a chip that 99.9999999999% of users will never notice or need. You've made the user experience of your phone worse purely so you could pursue an untenable goal of endless profit, a pattern you will repeat every 12-18 months for the rest of eternity or until the climate wars claim your life.

Only the most sane and functional economic system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

because otherwise the shareholders eat you alive for not chasing infinite profits.

I think that while the threat is real, the threat being a major motivator for upper management is largely illusory. It's absolutely there, but it's not making them do stuff they're not already keen on doing. Nobody weasels their way up the ladder to do non-profit-maximizing things, occasionally getting reprimanded for not maximizing profit and always one stray "the old phone's fine" tweet away from getting canned. They're willing and enthusiastic profit-maximizers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Comes with the price tag, I imagine.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

itoddlers btfo