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[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There's a lot of iconic problems Apple has had with product launches in the past (attenna-gate and butterfly keyboards are some of the most obvious recent ones), but I cannot for the life of me understand how something like this slips through in 2023. They must have a thermodynamics team that helped engineer the chassis, and the SoC team must know the thermal output of their chip. Did they just not test the device?

[–] glimpseintotheshit 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, you would also think they must have had someone with two thumbs who would be able to bend it slightly...

https://piped.video/watch?v=IS0SItAzEXg

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

This isn't even the first time an iPhone has had this exact issue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] glimpseintotheshit 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is piped not functional? Personally don't use it but thought that's what people use on here

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’ve only ever gotten one video to play on it. It’s fine, I googled the title and was able to find the video. The guy doing that tear down is awesome btw! I can’t deny I winced a few times while watching it.

[–] glimpseintotheshit 3 points 11 months ago

Got it, gonna post YT links from now on, that piped bot seems to handle them anyway.

And yes, Zach is awesome! Highly recommend checking out his channel before you buy new phones. Or just from time to time for the entertainment factor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Next time just replace piped.video (or other) with youtube.com.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It's what one bot keeps spamming, and it doesn't really work. The videos never play for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://youtu.be/IS0SItAzEXg?feature=shared

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Well where do you think your 2000 dollar goes? The product? Ha. Apple is and was a scam for a decade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does piped not work on mobile browsers? I've never been able to play a single video on Firefox on Android.

[–] glimpseintotheshit 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It works fine on iOS, are you using Googles DNS? Maybe they're blocking it...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I use cloudflare for DNS. Site opens just fine, but videos never play.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

It was probably just cheaper / greater profit margin

[–] Aurenkin 1 points 11 months ago

I just don't understand. The phone was thoroughly tested for a range of extreme real world use cases in our state of the art lab in the Arctic.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

The article picture alone is gold.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wish overheating was the only problem.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What are the other problems?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It doesn’t fit in my mouth

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

I know this probably doesn't need to be written out, but I'm having a really tough day and your comment helped me laugh and feel a little bit better. Thank you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

You're holding it wrong

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Physically, i think the other ones were that the phone is more fragile (can be broken with bending with only hands), and the phones with darker colored titanium edges gets its paint scratched off easily.

Titanium is very sensitive to scratches, just telling people as anybody who used an Essential PH-1 could tell you (I didd for 4 years)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Almost seems like the scratching of the phone is intentional. It would bring down the resale costs of the device and make them harder to trade in, and prompts consumers to think their phone is older than it really is in order to get them to buy a new one.

Not to mention that the heating issues on iPhone 15 are going to kill the battery faster than previous phones that do not overheat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Its why imo if youre going to get a 15 pro or better, get the titanium color. Its a "new" color with a titanium border with the least color problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh man I miss the PH-1. Mine got it's screen cracked so I switched to Pixel. Just such a satisfying weight and size for it. But at the end the battery life was rough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I do miss the weight and ceramic as well. Ive replaced the screen (multiple times, my fault) towards the end of its life and batteries, but tmobile cutting off 3g was time for me to move on from it (to a Zenfone 9)

The pixel to me isnt there yet to where i want it let me want it(outside of my preference for smaller phones) with the SOC(which is tied to battery life). Maybe until a generation after google launches its fully custom SOC where id consider getting the A varient of the phone only because its the smallest model.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Ah, I really wanted to go the zenphone route, but when my pixel 3 (I think) died, I went the cheap avenue with a 6A. I was about to travel to Scotland and needed a decent phone at a reasonable price. If I had the funds I'd have gone with your choice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Scratching maybe, not sure.

But I saw an issue that the darker ones reacted in a more visible way with skin oil. And the phone was loosing color around the buttons or where people grip it.

The solution from apple is buy the new case to protect it, or wipe it frequently.

The new woven case is trash and gets nasty very fast.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

buying a case actually exacerbates the scratching issue, as any small piece that gets into the case scratches it over time, hence experiences with Essential PH-1s. its just a symptom of titanium.

as a material, titanium is actually softer than some aluminum based alloys, so its softness allows for some dust, which have a higher hardness than it, to scratch it up. a common material that would scratch it up would be a grain of sand, and if caught inside the case, would do damage overtime.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is expected if they kept the same N4 node and raised the frequency. Giving that A17 is using TSMC N3E node with raised frequency, this is odd. Or this is -maybe- the silicon lottery due to immature production? Or thermal conductivity of titanium to blame? Effectively keeping the heat inside. This could be really bad for the battery. They don't like the heat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Or thermal conductivity of titanium to blame?

This is what two industry pundits cited on a podcast. I figure they probably know. Neither seemed concerned based on their own iPhones 15 Pro.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

It's probably happening during atmospheric reentry considering they're shipped in from the outer edges of the solar system.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You have to sell a new phone every 12-18 months, because otherwise the shareholders eat you alive for not chasing infinite profits. You have to differentiate your new phone from your last phone, even if there are no meaningful changes to be made and the last phone was good enough for everything anyone would ever use it for (as was the one before it, and the one before that, and etc etc). You have to push for people to buy the new phone, because otherwise you don't make money.

So you tell the engineers to bump up the clock speeds on the processor 5-10% so you can market it as being faster. You market the phone as being revolutionary for using the USB connector that was forced on you by regulators because your proprietary one was filling landfills with e-waste and pretend like it was your brilliant idea all along. You make sure to limit that USB connector to speeds that were outdated 10 years ago purely so you have a built-in 'upgrade' for your next phone where you fix the thing that shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

And then you realize your phone overheats because you overclocked the processor, all to squeeze extra performance out of a chip that 99.9999999999% of users will never notice or need. You've made the user experience of your phone worse purely so you could pursue an untenable goal of endless profit, a pattern you will repeat every 12-18 months for the rest of eternity or until the climate wars claim your life.

Only the most sane and functional economic system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

because otherwise the shareholders eat you alive for not chasing infinite profits.

I think that while the threat is real, the threat being a major motivator for upper management is largely illusory. It's absolutely there, but it's not making them do stuff they're not already keen on doing. Nobody weasels their way up the ladder to do non-profit-maximizing things, occasionally getting reprimanded for not maximizing profit and always one stray "the old phone's fine" tweet away from getting canned. They're willing and enthusiastic profit-maximizers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Comes with the price tag, I imagine.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago

itoddlers btfo