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The WHO has recommended dropping a component of many flu vaccines because the viruses it protects against appear to have been driven into extinction in the Covid pandemic.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For anyone who just wants to know what component: they want to drop the influenza B/Yamagata variant of the flu virus since it appears to have gone extinct in the wild.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And it didn't just go extinct by luck. It's a good case study of how to control and/or eliminate a virus (e.g. COVID):

"The rapid and global implementation of social distancing measures, masking, and the profound early reduction in international travel resulted in a substantial reduction in flu transmission."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shame that it worked for the flu and not for covid. In a way to me tho Covid just replaced variants of the flu.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Better than nothing though.

If we can get the world to agree to do 2 years of social distancing and masking in public places every 10 years maybe we can get rid of a lot more.

Probably would have gotten rid of a lot more if certain people weren't adamantly against masks for that 2 year period.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was all in for social distancing and so on for the time when covid was new and we didn't have vaccines etc., but it also did a lot of damage to young people, me somewhat included. That idea has a good intention, but it will do more damage in other sectors than it does good in that sector.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes it did!

I teach kids from ages ranging 12 to 18 and all the teachers agree there are skills missing from kids who had online classes during the pandemic.

Kids close to 12 have difficulty reading Kids around 14 have serious gaps in computer knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These seem like skills that can easily be caught up on. I would be worried more about the social anxiety the isolation brought to children in early puberty. It's heartbreaking to see them like that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

That's definitely worse. However, we haven't noticed much of that.

I would even argue that kids were eager to get reunited with their friends.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Much as I agree that more could and should have been done, I don't think there is any way to contain this particular coronavirus (unlike the original SARS, which did go extinct from similar measures). SARS-CoV-2 transmits readily between people and animals. It would be impossible to avoid transmitting it to pets and farm animals, and from there impossible to avoid transmitting it to wild animals, and back again.

We absolutely can slow it down to avoid healthcare systems collapsing under the strain but I don't think it is possible to eliminate it and there probably never was a time when that was realistic, given how infectious it is and how many people are infectious but asymptomatic for at least a day or two if not longer.

The only reasonable way to mitigate the risk in the long-term is proper ventilation/filtration in all enclosed public spaces, schools and workplaces. Plus ongoing six-monthly vaccinations at least until a vaccine which provides durable immunity is developed.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn't an honest title state that a certain flu variant now seems extinct? Why spread a title that makes it seem like the vaccines are unsafe?

Please downvote distortions like this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

What? Statnews.com isn't a model news source with integrity? I'm shocked!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Because the media is only interested in click generation and very much not actual journalistic integrity

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- CBS CEO

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago