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[–] [email protected] 180 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah I'm into Gitness

Gitness goddamn code to compile

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

You're down with the Gitness?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

We're done. This guy wins the Internet. We can all go home now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The one person who downvoted this couldn't get their code to compile

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gitness balls into your mouth

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Looks interesting, although the comments about other git repo services being bloated, complicated, and resource heavy, followed by a paragraph about AI features that have been added, with more planned in the future, seems a touch ironic to me.

[–] MonkCanatella 23 points 1 year ago

My first thought is that it's just an AI training move

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Isn't the whole point of these things the "bloated" (CI/CD, issue tracker, merge requests, mirroring, etc) part? Otherwise we'd all be using bare git repos over ssh (which works great btw!)

It's like complaining about IDE bloat while not using a text editor. Or complaining there's too many knives in a knife set instead of buying just the chef knife.

[–] Anafroj 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually, I do use git bare repos for CD too. :) The ROOT/hooks/post-update executable can be anything, which allows to go wild : on my laptop, a push to a bare repos triggers deploy to all the machines needing it (on local or remote networks), by pushing through ssh to other bare repos hosted there, which builds and installs locally, given they all have their own post-update scripts ; all of that thanks to a git push and scripts at the proper paths. I don't think any forge could do it more conveniently.

For me the main interest of forges is to publish my code and get it discovered (before GitHub, getting people to find your repos hosted on your blog's server was a nightmare). Even for the collaboration, I could do with emails. That being said, most people aren't on top of their inbox, in which mails from family are mixed with work mails and commercial spam in one giant pile of unread items, so it's a good thing for them we have those issue trackers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I find that claim so dubious. Like they list running on the smallest VMs as a feature but give no specific requirements for hosting or running the service. This whole article reads like buzzword salad. I question if the creators even know what a git forge is.

[–] Anafroj 67 points 1 year ago (6 children)

There hasn’t been a new Git repo launch in almost a decade

Am I the only person annoyed they seem to mistake repositories for forges? It's already annoying when casual users say "git" for "GitHub", but those guys actually want to build a forge, explaining they're going to do better than anyone else. Maybe start by properly using the terms?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And of course there have been forges launched, including SourceHut, Gitea, Gogs, Forgejo…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gitea, Gogs, Forgejo

"They are the same picture."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here I am knowing the difference between git and GitHub, GitLab, ...

But what's a 'forge' please ?

[–] Anafroj 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

That's the name we use to designate software like GitHub, GitLab and similar, which provide repositories hosting and tooling like issue trackers. It's supposed to be named like that because of SourceForge, the oldest of such tools, although I didn't hear the term "forge" before the last 5 years or so, long after SourceForge demise, so I imagine there is a bit of nostalgia in this name (not sure who is nostalgic of SourceForge, though 😂). The wikipedia page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forge_(software)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SOURCEFORGE: I'm not dead yet!

[–] Anafroj 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

^^

Oh, my apologies, Sourceforge! Say hi to Myspace for me!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

@Valmond @Anafroj gitlab, GitHub, sourceforge are forges. They use a tool to manage source code : git.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I myself have launched several new git repos in the last decade. Where's my article TechCrunch?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I complained when the term "crypto" was co-opted. Come die with me on this hill where we care about things.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also plain wrong - Codeberg launched in 2019. Now the question is: did the author just not know better, or is he paid not to know?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Codeberg isn't an entirely new forge. It's just a well-known gitea/forgejo instance. Sourcehut would probably be a better example.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the correction! Then it's also wrong due to Gitea which launched in 2016.

[–] Anafroj 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The worst part is that this is a direct quote from Harness' CEO, not from TechCrunch author. :) Maybe they have a great product, I don't know, but it certainly feels like an amateurish launch. :D

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if a CEO has to lie to make their product seem better, it's blacklisted in my mind.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought you were being overly pedantic but my god, they keep repeating the point. They seem to have no idea what the difference between a platform hosting code repositories and an individual repository is or even what version control software is. What the bloody hell is this.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im amused that the repo for it is on github and not on, well, Gitness

[–] MonkCanatella 9 points 1 year ago

total power move

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody name their new product Gitler for some reason. Such a good name.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

The logo writes itself.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

Gitea and Forgejo are the way to go. Especially Forgejo which is working on federation just like Lemmy but for Forgejo repos and instances.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

I want gitea to get federation

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

AI? Not bloated? Mmm. Will stick with Gitea.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems fast compared to self-hosted GitLab or Bitbucket. I don't see a way to add an ssh key or gpg key for code signing. No dark mode so expect to burn your retinas out in the middle of the night. I'll wait until it's a little more fleshed out before thinking about replacing Gitea in my network, though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How's it compare to gitea?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Gitlab takes way more RAM to run the docker container than i want. If this is lighter, that sounds nice. And im using only the most basic functionality, so wont be much loss to me if it cant do whatever fancy stuff.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

How about Gogs? The whole thing is < 30 MB, and is lightweight enough to run on a Raspberry Pi. You can even get a native binary package if you want to run it without the overhead of Docker.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or forgejo, with, you know, federation?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gitea is in same lightweight category.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Gitea is a fork of gogs. Forgejo is a forge of Gitea too. I would suggest/use Forgejo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Also hosted on… GitHub! 😀

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

well, shit, it looks like that is indeed what I want! setting it up now, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Many years ago I ran my own Gogs and it was pretty good, would recommend

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair. Competition is also good.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Does someone have a link to an instance to view? I don't get why their code is hosted on Github

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I disagree with this almost on principle. GitHub was a mistake. We don't need these large, bloated, isolated forges that are just going to be acquired and converted into social networks. Forgejo> is the future. Any new forge not even trying to support federation and independent hosting out of the box is dead in the water to me. You wanna build a github style accessible platform above forgejo go right ahead, the thing github did best was make all of this accessible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

i'm not finding a way to prevent creating users right now... i'm just able to register new users again and again on the docker run. maybe i'm just missing the config (the documentation is looking like it needs to be fleshed out).

not really trying to anyone with the url make an account on my basement computer...

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