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[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago (1 children)

None of the actual matters and this attack is rarely used these days. 99.9% of shit is encrypted "over the line". Unless you have some tls zero day you ain't getting shit besides leaked DNS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can't the hacker though spoof some fake websites and trick you into giving your information? If they control the WiFi they control the DNS don't they?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

I'm mean sure if they have mapping for every major bank and target they are going for and a good enough fake to back it up.

But it's such a low success rate with it being easy to be caught is practically not done.

[–] newIdentity 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well it actually isn't thaat bad.

Nowadays every website is encrypted

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

The connection to the website is encrypted, but you are right, it's not like pre HTTPS badness

I assume the good ol' E-Mail Spam Business is still going strong and getting stronger. If more people make business online, the more will fall to the "there's a problem with your account, please re-enter your credentials" bait.

I've even seen phrases like: your account may have been compromised, please enter now your credentials to fix the problem and add a laver of protection to your privacy.

In the last few weeks, I got the same "your account is on hold" ( font in google colors ), always from a different sender, multiple times a day ... Flagging these as Spam has no effect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense. How about apps? I often read about popular apps that are not encrypting their traffic.

[–] newIdentity 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's basically the same. Nowadays there barely is any app that isn't using HTTPS

This has been a problem like 5 years ago though. Like TikTok hasn't been encrypted for a long time. If you're worried, use a VPN-Tunnel that you trust.

Nowadays the only thing that is unencrypted is the site you're accessing since the DNS protocol isn't encrypted, but that's also changing with the adoption of DNS over HTTPS

[–] DumbAceDragon 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's why I use today's sponsor, privatenordatlastunnel vpn.

[–] darcy 6 points 11 months ago

nonono that one is a honeypot!!! unlike my superior vpn company (it pinky swore it doesnt keep logs)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

me when https and all my traffic is encrypted regardless of if I use a VPN or not

Nice try, NordVPN.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Everything is encrypted nowadays, with HTTP or similar. They only get DNS requests (if you use DNS over HTTPS or over TLS, not even that). Unless you have a zero day in your encryption scheme or network stack, you're fine.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Oh no, watch out everyone it's a Wire(less)Shark™

[–] bufordt 5 points 11 months ago

If only the guy knew how to row they might not be stranded in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I use Tailscale (or the fully-self-hosted Headscale) to ensure all my data is routed through my home whether my phone/laptop is on cell data, public wifi, or otherwise.

One can also simply use it to ensure communication between specific devices is always secure and available but I also find it quite useful as a way to secure all my data when away from home.

It's free for 5 users/100 devices per account with virtually all of the features available to the free plan.

There is also a paid option which should really only be interesting to businesses/etc which have many users to connect. Alternatively self-host g Headspace has no restrictions at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Nice PSA. I'll probably use this, it's very easy to understand

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The only reason why open wi-fi is insecure is because of captive Wi-Fi portals and I'm not saying that the Wi-Fi itself or the internet access is insecure it's just that captive Wi-Fi portals are inherently insecure because they block secure http and also with the website you're going on to don't have https so you can easily figure out the password that they want you to enter in or be able to steal somebody else's session so you don't have to pay or you can just get into a Xfinity router or something

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thats why you should use a VPN when you are out and about. 🙏

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Make sure you buy it from a youtuber.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And buy your undies from a podcaster

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can't hear you over my raycons™

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Sorry, I'm in an intense RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS game right now.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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