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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I think a lot for the guys that follow these morons and buy into this culture did not have positive male role models growing up, thus turn to media for some guidance.

This does not excuse their conduct or self-delusion, but does explain why it happens.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They are victims as much as they are villains.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Very much so, which makes it all that more sad.

I'm in no way excusing their villanry, but most are so delusional that they won't ever take a hard look at the way they are and wonder if they could be something else or if they need to change

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

They also never grew out of high school mentality.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't forget has never assessed what they have to offer, nor do they make efforts to improve.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s what most people tend to forget, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

One of the harder moments in my adult life was facing the fact that I had nothing to offer at that time which was why only creepy much older gay men were interested in me as I looked like I was 15 at 25.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (11 children)

My kitchen YouTube feed randomly showed me a "Rachel Zegler criticism" video and I was curious so I put it while cooking.

It was basically a 40 min rant where some YouTuber was showing her hypocrisy because she said Hollywood needs more representation from latinos even though she was acting on a movie as a puerto rican. The video could have been 2 minutes long but I noticed it was mostly the guy criticising every single word she's said and telling you how to feel about it.

I checked YouTube the next day and now it's full of alt right channels, for context I mostly watch veritasium, audit the Audit, science podcasts, dw documentaries, kurzgesagt and some music videos, I rarely watch political stuff on that account and yet now I see Ben Shapiro, Piers Morgan, Andrew Tate, Steven Crowder and the likes, literally my whole front page was just them and my automatic queue would be increasingly alt right shit.

I clicked on not interested and don't recommend this channel and yet I constantly see the videos showing up in the front page.

I think YouTube is heavily pushing this type of content, even if you try to show the algorithm that you are not interested. They probably see that it makes people get more engaged with the platform so they are okay with radicalizing everyone just for profit.

[–] lowered_lifted 22 points 1 year ago

You got it. Alt right to Nazi pipeline = increased view time = increased ad revenue. Same with how Facebook ranked content that got people to give it an "angry" react 5x higher in the algorithm than a "like" at one point. Anger/hate drives engagement.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I actually got this solely in YouTube shorts, but without having viewed anything related to it. Every few Shorts I scroll through, I'm met with something plucked straight out of the alpha/sigma/HKV trashbin and I'm assuming it's because I likely got demographic'd. It frankly kind of pushed me away from the whole feature - not much of value was lost since a lot of Shorts are just teaser trash that gives you a portion of a story designed to drive you to the channel.

Oddly, my regular, non-Shorts recommendations are fine.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The funniest thing about Andrew Tate is he's so obviously overcompensating for being gay. I mean funny weird, it would be funny ha ha if he weren't also a manipulative kidnapping rapist and grifter.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Everything is transactional, especially relationships"

"The reason feeeeemales don't want to commit to transactions with High Value Men is feminism and wokeness" up-yours-woke-moralists

[–] Aurenkin 10 points 1 year ago

Such a romantic

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

It's like Cosmo and their awful sex tips for women.

Keep them single, they'll keep coming back to you.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Who are these two high value men (lol) next to Tate and the other one with the selfie?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

We need a starterpacks community!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

With role models like this, This guy is a small life crisis away from "can you spare a crumb of pussy" to "does this rag smell like ether"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sneako and his "I'm a little teapot" lookin ass with those goofy ass ears. Holding a dickhead like him or the Tates up as some sort of goal to strive towards is synonymous with "rock bottom."

I get it - like I understand the mechanism behind why some younger dudes become infatuated with these figures. It's the same reason boomer housewives get into the Law of Attraction or why people who don't have a single fucking clue think Trump is going to fix everything if he could just get one more term in office... but I don't get it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

What a bunch of freemales

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Kermit the sexist philosopher.

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