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I must say it is not the best RPG out there, but I feel like it would have earned more. I personally have a lot of fun playing.

While it was not a Cyberpunk-grade overhype, I think it must still have been overhyped. Because if you see it as Skyrim with better graphics, it is pretty much what you'd expect.

Some of the common criticism seems to be intrinsic to the sci-fi genre. In Skyrim, you walk 100 meters and then you find some cave or camp or something that a game designer has placed there manually with some story or meaning behind it. And as a player, you notice that, because most locations in Skyrim feel somehow unique. Even though for example the dungeons have rooms that repeat a lot. Having a designer place them manually with some thought gives them something unique.

In interstellar sci-fi, a dense world like this is simply impossible. Planets are extremely large so filling them manually with content is simply not possible. And using procedural generation makes things feel meaningless. Players notice that fast. So instead, Starfield opted for having a few manually constructed locations that are placed randomly on planets, unfortunately with a lot of repetition. But that is a sound compromise, given the constraints of today's game development technology. The dense worlds that we are used to from other genres simply don't scale up to planetary scale, and as players, we have to get used to that.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

They don't have to make a game based in reality. They could have made their own system where the planets are small and filled that handful with lots of stuff. They chose to make real systems and have huge planets, it doesn't matter if there's 10, 100, 1000 planets if they are all barren and empty. The approach they took wasn't good for a bethesda rpg, they need the hand crafted world where they can keep things popping up. That's just the start of the problem with the game though, it is far too similar to their existing RPGs, I get playing it safe with a formula (I mean Larian do too), but you have to have great lore and story to back it up if that's what you want to do. Bethesda made no attempt to disguise it, it is as shameless as Ubisoft's rehashed games. They need a new engine if that is what's limiting them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why would it matter if they have huge vast empty spaces vs. still huge but comically looking empty spaces? That argument just doesn't make sense and I heard it so much from the whole Elite vs Star Citizen debate already. No, those smaller planets aren't filled with more interesting things because they're smaller, the gaps between points of interests are still procedurally generated and just as empty as the other game. But after seeing realistically scaled planets it makes even SC planets look like cartoon planets, sort of like the ones from NMS. It just doesn't look right. There's just no gameplay benefit to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it is as shameless as Ubisoft's rehashed games.

People keep saying this but I’d say at worst Ubisoft does games in pairs, occasionally trios. If you play AC: Odyssey and AC: Black Flag, I assure you they will be VERY different experiences. Mechanics/combat alone are a huge distinguishing factor.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, cause Black Flag was from the end of the time they actually made games and Odyssey is in their prime rehashing era.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I must say it is not the best RPG out there, but I feel like it would have earned more. I personally have a lot of fun playing.

If you care so much about what others think you probably aren't enjoying it as much as you think.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I keep seeing this "Skyrim in space" moniker from the people who are lukewarm yet still positive about the game. I'd argue you can't even say that. From what I've seen, the game is a regression in a lot of ways. Skyrim and other earlier BGS titles are superior products.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It literally has the same mechanics and systems simply shuffled around, rebalanced and presented differently.

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