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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "a popular init system"? It's the main init system now. Look at it. Systemd is the captain now.

    You'll have to learn it if you use any mainstream distro. Like at work. It is inevitable.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It makes my work so much easier than it could've.

    Imagine having to tweak sysvinit script at work.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, nope I'll pass. Unit files for me please thank you.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    having to tweak sysvinit script at

    Yeah. Trivial. Your point? Are you comparing nfsroot yet?

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    Yes, that's what 'popular' becomes.

    Note that it's often labeled as 'popular' and not 'good'.

    I'm sick of redhat's internal junk. It's just to sell courses anyway.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    If it was only an init system I'd be ok with it. But it isn't...

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    You need to use its init system (systemd), its logging system (systemd-journald, and can be forwarded to old school syslog), and some dbus implementation.

    If that's an unreasonable requirement for your usecase, check out OpenRC

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    then what would you define it as?

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    It's a system daemon that manages way more than an init system, hence the name "systemd".

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Hard question I guess. Middleware maybe?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    ... poorly.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The left and right one should be swapped.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    [–] cyanarchy 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yes, popular. Many distros use it and, believe it or not, most people don't care it's there. It works.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    All the major distros use systemd now.

    [–] darcy 1 points 1 year ago

    SOYSTEMD LOL 😂😂😂 (i use systemd)

    [–] opensourcedeeznuts 1 points 1 year ago

    Hell yeah brother

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    I knew a Arch guy who called it Sys-dumb-d. He refused to run systemd.

    I could mostly care less. It's.....fine. I miss upstart and it's simplicity. Kind of wish it had been actually developed to maturity, but here we are with an init system that also wants to do DNS.

    [–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's never been popular by anybody except RedHat, that's how they sell courses end certifications.

    Still haven't found a way to start something after networking has finished when it takes a bit to set everything up. (and no, not going to limit vlans, tunnels,...)

    It's a technical 'solution' for a marketing problem.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    Wouldn't you just set "networking" as a dependency on the unit of whatever you need started after?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

    I love how fucking lennaert subtly changed that. Who cares that it complicates classic tools.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Does After= not fit your use case? I was under the impression it does what you're looking for.

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