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Hey!

I'm looking for a better mail experience. I love the look and feel of Geary, but it (still) doesn't have PGP. And from the looks it's not going to happen any time soon...

I hate the look and feel of evolution and thunderbird (and the betterbird clone) ...

I need PGP to work within the client (yes I can PGP crypt messages anywhere in the terminal etc...) but I need the integration.

I consider betterbird my current only workaround, but I'm looking for alternatives. I'm really bad at coding so I can't participate in the Geary project as much as I would like to do it.

FYI: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/geary/-/issues/6

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thunderbird will be releasing a completely redesigned app from scratch next month. It has a fresher look. Maybe you could install the beta and try it out?

https://www.howtogeek.com/897874/mozilla-thunderbirds-next-big-update-is-now-in-beta/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, I don't like TB's RNP implementation, actually requiring you to keep 2 keyrings separately, the GNUPG one (if you do so, which is my case), and then a TB's own DB, which to me is non sense. And that's by design, a choice TB made when integrating PGP support on TB's code.

FYI, there's a Sequoia Octopus implementation which works quite well, though if not integrated with TB on the distribution you use, every time TB gets updated, one needs to go and replace TB's librnp.so with Octopus' one.

Kmail does a much better integration with GNUPG, but it's unfortunate that it has quite some dependencies, plus the whole akonadi stuff. But it already using kde/plasma, and not concerned about whole lot of dependencies, then kmail might be a really good option. The whole suite (kaddressook + kmail + korganizer + ...) is called kontact, and it's part of kde-pim. Korganizer doesn't yet support syncing ics/webcal remote calendars, after all these years, which is really disappointing, but I guess some people don't care.

That said, my current solution is TB + Sequoia Octopus...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

uh. that looks promising! I heard about it but that was a long time ago and I forgot. thanks @[email protected] :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Claws Mail is great! (Though I use KMail and the other KDE PIM software because it fits in better with Plasma...)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Claws Mail. For this email client there are plugins for encryption / signing (https://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=gpg). Regarding the visual appearance, however, one should not expect much. Claws Mail is first and foremost a functional client.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This looks interesting as well. Going to check this :) Cheers @[email protected] !

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say evolution (gnome-evolution) to keep into the gnome ecosystem, that was what I used because geary doesnt support OAUTH2 exchange.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

evolution works ok, I just don't like the look and feel. There's a lot of customization possible ... but it's just not for me somehow. so far the thunderbird beta is quite nice.

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