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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The amount of dark subreddits is wild. I'm pessimistic that this will create any meaningful change on the platform, but really hoping either way that alternatives not backed by corporations will grow and compete.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (5 children)

If nothing else its forced people to consider the need for an alternative and to open their eyes to places like Tilde/Lemmy/Kbin/etc. It may not be much now, but over time if reddit continues it's shitty behaviour and people now know these alternatives exist, more and more people can move over.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

If nothing else it's been very entertaining.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 years ago (16 children)

I'm pissed about r/pcmasterrace not protesting. Anyone knows why?

[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 years ago

in general I would assume any subs not participating are run by mods who value their mod status more than the quality of their community

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

Because the only people left there are the ones that forgot it was a joke.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just wanted to say that's a very nice and clean looking page.

Seeing some subreddits go private as a pop-up in the bottom right while on the site gave me a weird sense of apprehension...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Reminds me of the scene in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, where people are watching their galaxies go "foom".

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Wow, you can't even login to reddit to check what subs are black now. Must be getting hammered to death...

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unexpected attack on reddit? Hopefully it just makes the admins more butthurt that their userbase rejects their choices, but also, hopefully the subs that did stay open (to help people, like r ukraine or self help subs) aren't interrupted too much...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I can open r/ukraine on RIF. 3rd party apps still work.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

that's irony

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most will shut down on June 30 when reddit is overcharging to use the api, essentially to force them out and make you use their app with tracking and advertising.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that's why I'm here. Ironic that the current status is that the site is down but 3rd party apps work..

Site seems to be back up now.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don’t even want to login to give them a hit.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Reddit is just boycotting itself. Nothing to see here

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So are subreddits still planning to stay shut for only 2 days or are we extending that? Because 2 days does not seem enough for this.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

A lot of subreddits will stay closed indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

I feel this won't happen. If big subs continue to be dark too long, the reddit admins would simply remove the hostile volunteer mods and reopen the subs. The mods are used to being gods of their little domains. If they cross the line, they will be reminded that they own nothing. They can obey reddit or they can be replaced.

That is what I see in the future for any mods that try to hold subs hostage indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A possible problem is that they would be forced to find new volunteers to run them. While I bet there's many who want to be "gods" I bet it's harder to find people who can do it well enough to run a 10+ million forum. Especially hamstringed by reddits lack of modtools.

So sure, Reddit can remove the mods and do it multiple times but it will continuously lead to a worse experience and sooner or later an unacceptable amount of spam, hate and CP will cause the advertisers to pull their ads.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is absolutely true. There are often calls for 'anyone want to mod' on even smaller subs... and you know, it sounds fun to a lot of folks at first. But if you've ever actualy been a mod, even of a smaller community online? It loses its appeal very quickly.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I feel like ad revenue is not their top monetization priority personally. It's speculation of course. But I think they are learning that the free content the users create will generate much more revenue from mega corps who want access to all of it to train emerging AIs. Data, specifically YOUR data is valuable. What posts do you look at? What do you upvote? What do you downvote? What subreddits do you subscribe to? There is a wealth of information they will monetize. This is why I think they don't care that the little app devs can't afford their new API pricing. They can't give the app devs one price then think Microsoft, Google, Apple and other multi-billion dollar corps would pay a higher price.

Again, this is just my speculation. But the suddenness and the exorbitant price means they want to act now, and capitalize on this new market while it's good. Their terms of service specifically say everything you post, you give them a license to use, sell, or sub-license without dispute, forever. This isn't about ads.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Two major subs called /r/technology and /r/programming just went dark. This seems to have reached great levels now considering that CEO /u/spez himself is a senior mod on /r/programming sub.

At this point, I think the most visited and interesting subs are already down on reddit, love to hear any exceptions which are still up and running.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Congrats to...checks notes.../r/earfetish for being the 1000th to go dark lol

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

I decided to check the front page (as in /r/popular, what people see by default) out of morbid curiosity since most of Reddit has gone dark now, and honestly it’s like nothing has changed for the casual user.

The biggest subs with the most traffic haven’t gone dark at all, and all the same posts and popular stuff still fill the front page, so for many people I suspect they’re not even going to feel this, but maybe it’s a bit too premature to be making this conclusion, let’s see what happens.

EDIT: I was somewhat premature with this post, even /r/popular is pretty barren as things move nowhere near as fast. That being said, it's disappointing to see how much is still open, and how some subreddits (such as /r/pcmasterrace) are clearly missing the point by allowing "certain posts".

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

I just checked all and popular, the top posts are all about the blackout. It did feel a bit empty, which is good.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have multiple reddit accounts and on one my front page was literally blank so it depends on what subs you look at

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (7 children)

8 years, 11 months.

I'm going dark in solidarity. 100 minutes to go in my time zone.

Goodbye, u/mutisi0n. Goodbye, Reddit. It's been real.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I'm one of the new Lemmy users, fleeing from the sinking ship that is Reddit. Hi everyone!

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has actually blown my mind how many people got behind this movement. Overall the change was not something that would have ruined Reddit for most, but it was enough of a middle finger of the community that we all got riled up for it. I am proud to be a part of this movement!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (27 children)

Seems like Reddit is completely down now. Frontpage hasn't loaded for 15 or 20 minutes.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

Shit is collapsing. I hope the Reddit Board are enjoying a huge bowl of β€˜Found Out’.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's also a Twitch stream linked at the top of the page. Join us in sitting around, watching, and chatting as the proverbial shit hits the fan!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

if the site won't load for you, the link is twitch.tv/reddark_247

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Holy shit over 2.5 billion combined subscribers. I've also been seeing quite a few people deleting their accounts, myself included.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

It's kind of a useless stat considering the amount of overlap.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nice seeing so many of those that I visit often are dark. Before the blackout, there was talk of if they should go permanently. But, those discussions will happen after things go back. With Spez being a dipshit about it still, I'm thinking several of them will leave Reddit forever. I'm good with it.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (9 children)

This has really opened my eyes to just how many niche porn subs there are.....maybe too many?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Come on r/Australia. Do the right thing!!!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Weirdly enough, the website gone dark on me so now I can't see Reddit subs go dark.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

many will have a cake day this week, it will be an indication of a fellow refugee hahaha

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like each time a sub goes private there should be a custom final message or something. Like a last post saying "Goodnight and good luck" πŸ˜…

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Is the website using the API to fetch it's data? That would be hilarious.

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