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Reminds me of a time I was arguing with a friend in a pub. He didn't vote and thought it was pointless etc. I was saying:
Me: "Have you been to recently?"
Him: "Yeah"
Me: "Have you noticed a the amount of homeless people?"
Him: "Yeah, it's getting really bad now isn't it"
Me: ...
Him: "What's that got to do with the government?"
At this point, a random woman leaned in to comment.
"You know, I agree with your friend. HE shouldn't vote."
I on the team of this woman when it comes to quite a few people
I work for my county, I have at least one coworker who is proud that she's never voted and doesn't care about politics
We work for the government, dumbass! That's basically saying "no, I don't want my opinion to be heard on who my boss is" when the options are often a person who wants to give us raises, better benefits, etc. and a person who wants to cut all of that.
It's probably for the best though, because when she does express a political opinion it's over the stupidest fucking shit. She supported Trump due to some comments he made about funding IVF treatments, while she's a polyamorous, wiccan divorcee with several health issues who doesn't have and as far as I'm aware doesn't want children. Yes, the republican party with their "traditional christian family values" schtick, who are constantly trying to gut all things related to medical care are totally the party that is going to look out for people like you, and totally worth supporting because you have some vague notions about wanting people to be able to have babies.
If you live in society with other humans, politics will involve you because it literally means things that concern everyone. People not wanting anything to do with it just means democracy isn't working.
democracy isn’t working
Nailed it.
It's called demoralization.
I'm a first-generation immigrant.
My parents are like: "Stop criticizing [Country we are from]"
Also parents: "I like the job here and the pay is good, back in [Country where we are from], the pay was bad and it took a long time before the payments arrive."
They currently work a Union job. Strike action is illegal in my former country.
"Ignored politics, eh? I'm sorry, but by this point the only solution to all of your problems is going to require that you fight a cop."
You don't have to be "into politics" to hate the state of current situations. We can all feel left behind when infrastructure fails, society piles on, prices skyrocket and basic homes are out of reach financially.
i think the point they're making is that not being into politics prevents one from recognizing the root cause(s) for these problems and indirectly perpetuates them. which I think is by design honestly. it's in the best interest of capital owners that working people are not interested in politics.
That’s fine. Just don’t waste anyone else’s time complaining about that stuff if you’re not going to exert the minimal effort to do anything about it.
Forget doing anything, they can't even be bothered to learn what any of it means
You can get into politics minimally, you don't have to nerd out on it, but everyone should have a basic understanding of the political system.
It's like complaining that your house constantly catches fire but never bothering to realise that your extension cable monstrosity is causing the problem. A basic understanding of the electricity would have prevented the fire in the first place, and learning about electricity now would prevent future fires. But instead you just complain that your house catches fire every other week.
Exactly, I actually hate politics with a firey passion and would love nothing more than to be able to ignore it. But I hate the current state of affairs even more, so I am forced to pay attention.
It's like how I dislike wiping my ass, but I love having a clean asshole. Sometimes you have to do things you don't like to get the preferred outcome.
You don't have to be into "water" to hate the state of being thirsty. We can all feel parched and frustrated when we don't drink it, don't pay our water bill, or eat a cup of salt every day.
To me there's a difference between "politics" and taking about a specific topic and concern.
unfortunatly most people that I know that want to "talk politics" always have an agenda and motive. These individuals are never concerned about learning and broadening the topic but "winning" and their agenda.
Edit: F any trumper out there too.
unfortunatly most people that I know that want to “talk politics” always have an agenda and motive. These individuals are never concerned about learning and broadening the topic but “winning” and their agenda.
This is why my reaction to these people irl is always, "I don't like talking about politics." Which, a quick look at my comment history would tell anyone, is absolutely ridiculous lol.
You can usually tell which people are actually interested in discussion, and which have an (usually right wing) agenda to push.
I mean, I do have an agenda, that's kinda the point. My agenda is to make life better (= more equal, more inclusive, etc) for everyone
And yet despite arguing with people and writing my representatives and voting every damn chance I get politics has not improved those things one iota and now I have an ulcer and disowned family members.
Also: Not funny, didn’t laugh.
Badum tssss
As social animals, virtually all things humans do or make is in some sense political.