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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Dude randomly ends the article with antivax tripe, saying that vaccinating children is essentially murdering them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Guy's a Cook.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know either why so many drift off into lalaland. Just ignore these parts, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Someone who is an idiot and ignores reality isnt someone you should listen to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Two years until there is an energy crisis. If there weren't the vaccine parts, I would take him serious and be worried.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Look at his sources, and make up your mind.

In terms of per capita and especially net energy per capita world we are already in a crisis.

That tight resources are a flash in a pan is long known.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And…no talk about renewable energy’s massive growth in the same time-frame? Got it.

Edit: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/electricity-fossil-renewables-nuclear-line?time=2004..latest

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was trying to goad you towards looking what it takes to sequester those annual 10 petagrams of carbon using renewable energy sources, while powering the global economy, while including replenishment of the renewable energy infrastructure itself. The latter it currently cannot, being merely multipliers of fossil energy sources.

It is remarkable they cannot even make it work in Iceland, with almost free geothermal and suitable geology for underground injection.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

sequester those annual 10 petagrams of carbon

What does that have to do with renewable energy output?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because for sequestration you need to use 100% renewable energy, at scale. Which leaves you only with solar photovoltaics. Which does a lot worse than geothermal, in Iceland. And it doesn't even work in Iceland.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude. I’m not discussing any of that. I’m talking purely from the energy output perspective. I don’t care about carbon sequestration, it’s not part of the discussion.

If the amount of fossil power generation goes down and renewable goes up, things are mostly stable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm afraid there is no energy transition https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-primary-energy

The amount of fossil in primary energy use remains at about 80% and changes so slowly, it doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you notice the "primary energy" part?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I never said renewable would magically replace fossil in a year. Just saying there’s a huge emphasis on “production is down X%!” Whereas the renewables % is effectively replacing that loss.

The rest of the article is so much speculation. Companies reducing the amount they have in storage is somehow predictive of a collapse? Fewer rigs? Yea, not like there’s a ton of economic uncertainty or anything.

Listen, there are many reasons a global collapse can happen. This one is just so much damn speculation it hurts.