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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This involves forcing WhatsApp to work with other messengers, right?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All social networks and messengers need to be open protocol. EU do your thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No that's the Digital Markets Act they where designed in conjunction but the DSA is introduced first, don't know the timeline when the DMA will follow (hopefully soon and not be watered down in the meantime)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Markets_Act

It's already applicable, but this means that now the countrys have like 2 years if i'm not mistaken to actually enforce it. So we will the the effects in 2025.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Found this timeline:

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_ATA(2022)739226

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2022/739226/EPRS-AaG-739226-DMA-Application-timeline-FINAL.pdf

So sometime during 2024 it will be in effect (applicable since may 2023, but after that 6 month for companies to make a case weather or not they are gatekeepers, 2 month for the eu to answer and tell the companies the verdict if they are a gatekeeper or not, and after that 6 month for the gatekeepers to comply, so if the companies strech the process out it will be here in juli 2024)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I would be so happy to finally drop that piece of garbage. Currently I run a second profile without anything to grab just to run WhatsApp on my phone.

[–] HenriVolney 3 points 1 year ago

Not sure messaging federation is covered by DSA

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That’s actually part of the Digital Markets Act

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


LONDON, Aug 24 (Reuters) - More than a dozen of the world's biggest tech companies face unprecedented legal scrutiny, as the European Union's sweeping Digital Services Act (DSA) imposes new rules on content moderation, user privacy and transparency.

Two of the companies singled out for early regulation – e-commerce giant Amazon (AMZN.O) and German fashion retailer Zalando (ZALG.DE) – are currently challenging their inclusion on the list in court.

"We can expect that platforms will fight tooth and nail to defend their practices," said Kingsley Hayes, head of data and privacy litigation at law firm Keller Postman.

The organization submitted 13 ads containing harmful content for approval, including one inciting violence against immigrants and another calling for the assassination of a prominent Member of the European Parliament (MEP).

This year Global Witness, another nonprofit, claimed Facebook, TikTok and Google's YouTube had all approved ads inciting violence against the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) community in Ireland.

In July, Amazon filed a legal challenge with the Luxembourg-based General Court, Europe's second highest, arguing that bigger rivals in these countries had not been designated.


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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're doubling their ~~bribery~~ lobbying budgets?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lots of regulation around misinformation and hate speech and what not, but no talk about actually regulating what people and companies can post and advertise on social media? Why not go after the source as well?

As far as I know AI moderation at that scale and accuracy isn't possible at the moment, and I'm glad that they're lighting a fire under these companies asses to figure it out, but I'm not convinced a single prong approach is the way to go to actually solve the problem.

Correct me if I'm missing something though, this sort of regulation isn't my area of expertise.

[–] HenriVolney 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't tell either. Seems to be one piece of a broader policy, along with GRDP and another one coming up, which name I forgot

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The GDPR is based on privacy and doesn't tackle misinformation specifically. You might mean the DMA as the other one, which is coming into enforcement soon, but that's more around fair competition, not misinformation. Afaik the DSA is the only regulation from the EU that's going after misinformation, but only on the platform side.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

GRDP doesn't seem to work very well. I asked Reddit for my data on July the 1st. I still received nothing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You should follow up with Reddit. They can extend by a couple months if the request is complex, but they should have notified you of this in 30 days. If they don't respond you'll have to reach out to your DPA (data protection authority) and put in a complaint.

The GDPR is just regulation, you have to make the complaint if you want your DPA to enforce it. They don't know you've made the request unless you tell them.

[–] HenriVolney 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't you file a complaint or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Assuming they are from the EU, yes they absolutely can and should.