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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

JFC, is nothing safe?

I was just talking about dumping Fitbit as Google destroys it and jumping to Garmin...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What now?

Some options:

  • Gadget Bridge allows connecting most devices fully locally
  • PineTime simple, but cheap and free of corporate nonsense
  • RePebble (coming later this year) - I just learned and it in this thread, but it looks promising.
[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 days ago

Maybe the problem is you

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Easy fix:

Buy a fitness/smart watch - an older one is fine, why go excessive

Download GadgetBridge from F-Droid/Droidify and then use that instead of a proprietary app which is just harvesting your data and telemetry at every chance:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I wish that was the case, but it absolutely doesn't even come close.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not even Garmin can resist the temptation?
Oof, better hold out hope for Repebble I guess

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Ooh. Thanks. Today I learned about RePebble. If it doesn't deliver, there's still also Gadget Bridge (connect most devices fully locally) and PineTime (another spiritual successor to the Pebble).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I will never understand the fitness metrics craze...I don't want my health maintenance to be more systematized than observing two or three core principles and letting the rest sort itself out

[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

TL;DR: They lied to us, plain and simple. The temptation of Make Line Go Up was enough to make Garmin abandon their promise of no subscriptions and no paywalls.

Nobody outside of the idiots in the boardroom wants this, especially the AI garbage. It's disgusting that $1100 for a Fenix 8 isn't already enough for these greedy assholes. Original features are "free for now," but I guarantee you this will change when nobody signs up and MBA dipshits start leaning on everybody to force users to provide recurring revenue by moving previously free functionality into the subscription tier. This is not a prediction or an "if," it is an inevitability and a "when," unless we nip this in the bud right now.

I am on my second Garmin watch, a Fenix 6. Previously I had a 5x. My wife has a Lily. These will be our last ever Garmin devices, and I'll be sure to let them know it. It's getting to the point where no smartwatch maker can be trusted, unsurprisingly, and honestly the alleged benefits they provide are probably no longer worth it in the long run. Before smartwatches were a thing I amassed quite a selection of normal watches, which I will probably just go back to using when my current watch inevitably cacks it, or the software becomes so borked that it's useless.

Edit: In fact, just now I did let them know it. I also cancelled my inReach subscription and let them know it there as well, and deleted my Connect account (and pulled my watch faces off of their marketplace) and also let them know it there too. When I do something I mean it. I suggest you all do the same; the only ear these companies have is located in their coin purses.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Moving previously free features of a product you've already paid for should be considered theft legally. Hopefully enough people in the EU complain about it for them to do something about it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem with that is this is software. We've seen this before. If the EU complains they'll stop doing it... only in the EU. They'll continue the fuckery in the US because it's legal here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I don't care if americans still lose, as long as I see the corporations lose somewhere else.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hopefully things like PineTime, Bangle.js, and the return of Pebble can shake up the market. There's always neat DIY hacks like the SensorWatch too that can still make the space fun even if the major players get enshittified.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I also just deleted my Connect account. I have had it with these greedy American corporations. To anyone looking for an alternative, I highly recommend checking out Gadgetbridge, it still lets you use your watch with almost all the same features, only the data never leaves your phone.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Any advice for getting it to actually work with a Garmin watch? I just tried it with my Fenix 6 (solar) and it doesn't detect the watch at all. In fact, even selecting "show unsupported devices" reveals that my watch's bluetooth MAC address isn't even seen by my phone. (Yes, I unpaired it and removed Connect from my phone. I also resorted to factory resetting my watch. No dice.)

At the moment I'm using it unconnected because it still shows the time and so forth with the watch face I want. But without any kind of connectivity there's really no point to not just putting this thing back in its box for good and grabbing one of my numerous dumb watches.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ugh, and so the enshittification begins...

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

It really sucks, they've been spared from noticeable enshitification so far but I guess the line didn't go up enough anymore...

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've bought Garmin devices explicitly because they didn't do these things, and promised not to do these things. Since I know they're not going to retract this decision, I am going to look into trying to get my purchases refunded.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh, for fuck's sake. We just bought our first Garmin watches two months ago. I felt uneasy about our new relationship with yet another american corporation, but we loved the watches and the app... And now what?

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well, that truly sucks and could lead to me swapping to another brand if it adds ads to upgrade in my connect app.

I paid a lot of freaking money for my watch and included services.

INFACT I am going to email them my opinion on this and warn them I will absolutely leave in one Garmin recorded heartbeat

Edit: I submitted the below response here: https://www.garmin.com/en-US/forms/ideas/. Not sure that's the best place but that's where I did it.

*This is what I just sent them from their contact page

I switched to Garmin fitness watches in 2013

910xt followed by 920xt, Fenix 3HR, Fenix 5X, Fenix 6X, and now own possibly my last Garmin the Fenix 8X amoled.

I just saw a story about a subscription tier for connect.

  1. total crap that nobody is asking for
  2. If I have to see or dismiss an ad for connect plus in my app that will be the beginning of the end of our relationship
  3. I'm about 90% sure, regardless of ads it will be anyway because it will be hard to convince me that the next set of new watches won't be directly impacted by a subscription tier. At least one feature the watch(s) would have gotten will be pushed into the pay tier.*

This is EXTREMELY disappointing

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I also submitted feedback there. Probably amounts to nothing but you never know.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

For fuckkkksss sake. Ill keep my garmin watch until it works but never buying another one. I was so happy to find a watch that had everything i needed. Actually huge shame...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Yay more shit that nobody asked for.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh no, good thing gadgetbridge exists

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

AFAIK gadgetbridge is not even close to a replacement WRT functionality? Last I checked it only supported basic data import, has that changed?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm using a Garmin watch with Gadget Bridge from f-droid. Works well even though I don't like the app's look that much.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For the android users, just gonna put this here

https://gadgetbridge.org/

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Just as I was saying to myself "I'm pretty happy with the Garmin I have, I don't need a new Pebble," here come Pebble's marketing department with a reason!

... What do you mean this is an announcement from Garmin?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Uch, was already willing to get rid of my garmin but this just gives me more motivation

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It’s also not trustworthy. Would you want the united states to have access to your heart rate, pulse ox, gps location, and other health stats?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A parallel comment to my rant yesterday, I see the pushback has already begun in Garmin's reviews against this nonsense. All of the recent reviews of their Android app are now overwhelmingly complaints about the subscription addition, and I suspect iOS is the same. If you haven't done so already, please be sure to blow Garmin up over this on any platform you can get your grubby hands on.

I know posting this here is probably more like spitting on a forest fire; I'm sure the seven or eight nerds here on Lemmy dedicated enough to care have already put Garmin on blast for this (myself included), but it never hurts to make sure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's crazy is I'm on the fence about a beeline moto because they have subscription for basic shit like traffic, thinking Garmin would be better.

Welp.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Garmin is at the top of the game for health tracking and fitness bar none but if your looking to monitor traffic a different type of smart watch would suit you better.

I loathe saying this but a pixel watch with Gmaps might be your best bet. Someone else could offer an open source option though perhaps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I agree to leave a review on the Appstores. However Garmin can censor the negative reviews if they want. So i recommend in addition to that leaving comments on social media, review webpages, videos where Garmin can't delete the comments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Of all the ais gemini is the worst lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Will those features be as useless as strava summeries?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

They're AI so yes

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