I really dislike Tuta for their refusal to support SMTP/IMAP and PGP, let alone CalDAV or CardDAV. Posteo's approach is way better.
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SMTP/IMAP
Is this not a deal breaker for, like, everyone?
Web apps.
For reference I work for a competing mail provider and the majority of our users don't use SMTP or IMAP, instead exclusively using the web app.
or the app app lol. Tuta has apps on all platforms.
Personally never had to use either protocol, what's your use case? - genuinely curios.
Using Thunderbird as opposed to tuta's quite barebones client:
- delayed messaging
- message scheduling
- local backup of mails
- no email import
- desktop app failures (happens quite often to me that I just can't log in)
Not to mention other external QoL functionalities like a home assistant tablet being able to display a family calendar and being able to automate based off of events
Defo some good points here that I had not thought of, am too used to using webclients. Though Tuta does have an mail import feature.
Tuta's discount is tempting, but I've also seen StartMail doing 50% off lately. Definitely feels like a good time to test a couple out, especially if you care more about UX than just encryption.
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Posteo has no custom domain support, deal breaker for me. As far as I understand they don't support IMAP in order to keep their encryption working, and I believe others like Proton do the same thing. Since their webapp is good and they even have an official client on Fdroid, I don't think it's a big deal
For people who want custom domain support, as well as SMTP/IMAP, but still euro-based, Nubo may be more what you're looking for if you're OK with dealing with a newer company.
That's pretty cool, haven't heard of this service before. The website is a little light on technical details but I do like the co-op model.
Not sure what they're running for email, but for the other cloud services, I think they just run Nextcloud?
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Just started a test subscription with posteo... I'm rather disappointed they don't allow to view the email previews in vertical columns. Their layout is horizontal only and can't be changed. It's a very small pet peeve, but i wasn't expecting not being able to change that :(
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You probably don't need that legendary plan though. You can get the regular plan for the same price later, it offers more than enough for a regular user. As of now, try it for free. Fuck FOMO.
lol I was literally FOMOing on this, and it's so true that I don't even need the legendary plan. Thank you for bringing me back to reality.
*for the first year of the subscription only.
Exactly, get you locked in then you pay full price at renewal
I'm sorry, but did you expect them to give you 62% off permanently?
Yes? It's not uncommon to see discounts stick for the life of the sub. It locks people in because they don't want to lose that sweet deal, sometimes even if there's a cheaper/more appropriate package elsewhere.
Well, no, I'm just pointing out that it's a marketing tactic. Still a great deal if you were planning on purchasing that plan anyway.
Tuta kept giving me ads despite being a premium user and when I finally decided to leave they made it impossible to cancel. I had to delete my account to get out of the bind.
Are you referring to their newsletter? I just set a spam filtering rule to automatically discard those. Also can you elaborate more on it being hard to cancel your subscription? I can do it very easily.
I do have my own list of complaints about Tuta, but so far they are the best I've found
That's not the only one, but I refuse workarounds on services I pay for out of principle.
Sigh, I have just one problem with Tuta - why such a stupid, stupid name?! I can already imagine myself on the phone saying "yes, T. U. T. A. Tuta dot com"
I sadly agree. It is an odd choice for a name. Tutanota wasn't much better either, their former name. Apparently "tuta" means secure in Latin. However as I am using my own custom domain it doesn't bother me very much personally as it's not a part of my digital identity ๐
Oh! I didn't know it has a latin origin. Then I guess it makes sense but still ...
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It really is. Could've been worse, like having some "I love Tuta" stickers. smh
TIL: they used to be called Tutanota. The word โTutaโ comes from Latin, which roughly translates into โSafeโ. This acts as a nice successor to what โTutanotaโ meant in Latin, which was โSecure Noteโ.
How about some pcloud in these trying times?
Don't get me started! In Romanian 'tuta' is a designation for a very stupid woman! ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I don't know if keemailme is better but that's another option from them.
Yeah good point. If tuta is a big throw off they do offer:
coolName@keemail[.]me
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Itโs fun to see how people rage over corporations who sell their data and let people use their products for free. And when you want to use more private products, they complain about how they need to pay for it.
I have been using Tuta for a couple of years now, when I decided to not use Google anymore and I think Tuta is worth the money.
You need to use Tutaโs application because they canโt provide their security with a other applications.
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Even Gmail allows to use the email client of your choice, going for an email provider that force you to use their app is a bummer
Oh wow
I checked out their business offering because I was curious and apparently they don't even support single sign-on.
What the hellโฝ How do they expect to sell to businesses if they can even support the most basic features like SSO in 2025?
This is made worse by the fact that they don't support phishing resistant authentication like passkeys. Single sign on could have solved this since login (including stuff like mfa) would be handled by idP
What SSO are you expecting? Google? Microsoft? GitHub? You see the problem here?
The missing passkey is certainly something they can work on but this is definitely not a critical feature
I would want to be able to use any of the common IdPs. That does indeed include Google Identity, Microsoft Entra ID, GitHub, Okta, AWS, but also self hosted (and often open source) IdPs like AD FS, Keycloak, Shibboleth, Gluu Server, and so on.
It's ridiculous that a supposed business plan doesn't support SSO to even generic spec compliant SAML or OIDC IdPs. It's not exactly rocket science.
There is absolutely no way in hell we would ever use this at work when it lacks even rudimentary SSO.
It might be targeted more towards smaller businesses but more and more companies are moving towards SSO and passwordless so they should implement it.
I have been using Tuta since the start of the year when I decided it was time to remove myself from Big Tech as much as I can. Really highly recommend them!
Long time free user here. Now I'm tented.
Tented? ๐
Maybe its tempted? Idk, I'm translating from Italian.. ๐
Bone apple tea.
This has always been under good advisement, for privacy.
My Proton account still runs til November (it's cancelled) this year, would be nice to subscribe to Tuta and activate it starting October so I cpuld move stuff. Guess I have to hope for other deals in the future
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