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[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean.. It's a tale as old as time. Teens fuck.

Definitely issues between 17/18 & 13 but two 14 yo? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

At some point, if they want to, they'll find a way. I don't know what you can do without being totalitarian and constant monitoring besides teach consent.

Edit: As a caveat, I just realized there are 2 pics and only the 2nd loaded for me, so I may chat ve my answer on revisiting.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The second image is the only one that loaded for me as well

But yeah, teens are gonna fuck no matter how much adults don't want them too. The best option is to teach them about consent and safe sex practices. And making sure that they have an adult they can go to if there's something that goes wrong.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree with that. However, I am more worried by how the orange person claims that it's a good thing that underaged people fuck, when they really shouldn't. There is still a difference between teaching them all of the things you mentioned while at the same time still telling them they should wait until they're 18 and saying that there is nothing wrong with underaged sex.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a difference between seeing something as not bad and seeing something as good. There's a spectrum of good and bad things.

Should teens be discouraged from having sex before 18, probably. But it should be done in the context of a conversation on informed consent, because just telling your teens to not have sex will likely lead to bad outcomes in the sense of them trying to hide the fact they did, even if they didn't consent to what happened due to fear of getting in trouble.

You want your teens to feel safe coming to you with questions about all kinds of things because they will seek answers from older people in their lives and you don't want them to seek answers from people who will abuse them on what constitutes abuse.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree with what you said too, especially on the topic of conversation, but I don't know how the spectrum of good and bad applies in the context of that sentence. Teens shouldn't have sex before 18. I agree with what you said and how it should be approached, however having sex when you're younger than 18 isn't "not bad". It can influence a person in a very negative way and approaching it like they did just feels wrong.

I'm also concerned by the amount of like/dislike ratio both of their comments had. I checked the post and blue got more downvotes, where as the orange got more upvotes and the fact that so many people don't really see a problem with people below the age of consent having sex scares me.

[โ€“] priapus 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I disagree that two consenting people under 18 having sex is inherently a bad thing. Most teenagers who are in a relationship at this point will have sex. If they are doing so safely then I see no problem with it. Orange didn't imply that this is a good thing, just that it isn't a bad thing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I blurred out the names of the people for the sake of their privacy. I saw this thread while scrolling through the subreddit. I'm not sure how to feel about the orange person's comment in particular. It just feels... wrong...

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Teenagers of the same age having sex is commonplace as low as 12 (more likely 14) where I live and it's never bothered me or any of the people I know who've done it as far as I'm aware

The big issue is teen pregancy and consent, so, ensuring access to condoms while all the religious people keep crying about it and touching them a word or two about the seriousness of consent

Consent about pictures as well

Teen pregancy is probably the reason why we don't want to normalize it, not the issues you would get from predatory relationships (developmental issues, warped views of sex, social integration issues, ptsd, ...)

Teen development is compatible with sex as long as it comes up normally

(The place is Tahiti)

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah no sorry sex at 12 is pretty fucked up.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty rare even here

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can just ask them about it a dozen years later to decide that!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think I understand what you're saying

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my country has an age of consent of 13 if there are less than 4 years of difference, 14 for all other ages.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's bad. No 13 year old is mature enough to handle things that come with sex.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yeah 13 is too low honestly. at that age most just aren't responsible.