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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

AI slop in Springer books:

Our library has access to a book published by Springer, Advanced Nanovaccines for Cancer Immunotherapy: Harnessing Nanotechnology for Anti-Cancer Immunity.  Credited to Nanasaheb Thorat, it sells for $160 in hardcover: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-86185-7

From page 25: "It is important to note that as an AI language model, I can provide a general perspective, but you should consult with medical professionals for personalized advice..."

None of this book can be considered trustworthy.

https://mastodon.social/@JMarkOckerbloom/114217609254949527

Originally noted here: https://hci.social/@peterpur/114216631051719911

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I should add that I have a book published with Springer. So, yeah, my work is being directly devalued here. Fun fun fun.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

On the other hand, your book gains value by being published in 2021, i.e. before ChatGPT. Is there already a nice term for "this was published before the slop flood gates opened"? There should be.

(I was recently looking for a cookbook, and intentionally avoided books published in the last few years because of this. I figured that the genre is a too easy target for AI slop. But that not even Springer is safe anymore is indeed very disappointing.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can we make "low-background media" a thing?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Is there already a nice term for “this was published before the slop flood gates opened”? There should be.

"Pre-slopnami" works well enough, I feel.

EDIT: On an unrelated note, I suspect hand-writing your original manuscript (or using a typewriter) will also help increase the value, simply through strongly suggesting ChatGPT was not involved with making it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can't wait until someone tries to Samizdat their AI slop to get around this kind of test.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

AI bros are exceedingly lazy fucks by nature, so this kind of shit should be pretty rare. Combined with their near-complete lack of taste, and the risk that such an attempt succeeds drops pretty low.

(Sidenote: Didn't know about Samizdat until now, thanks for the new rabbit hole to go down)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

hand-writing your original manuscript

The revenge of That One Teacher who always rode you for having terrible handwriting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There aren't really many other options besides Springer and self-publishing for a book like that, right? I've gotten some field-specific article compilations from CRC Press, but I guess that's just an imprint of Routledge.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

i have coauthorship on a book released by Wiley - they definitely feed all of their articles to llms, and it's a matter of time until llm output gets there too

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Dem pundits go on media tour to hawk their latest rehash of supply-side econ - and decide to break bread with infamous anti-woke "ex" race realist Richard Hanania

A quick sample of people rushing to defend this:

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I almost forgot how exhausting TW was.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

At least he is using LLMs to blast away what is left of his critical thinking skills. If the effect is real he will be a vegetable in a week.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

tracing going all in on left wing people aren't real they can't hurt you

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I gave him a long enough chance to prove his views had changed to go read Hanania's actual feed. Pinned tweet is bitching about liberals canceling people. Just a couple days ago he was on a podcast bitching about trans people and talking about how it's great to be a young broke (asian) woman because you can be exploited by rich old (white) men.

So yeah he's totally not a piece of shit anymore. Don't even worry about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dems do literally anything to materially oppose fascism, even in the most minuscule way challenge (impossible)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@swlabr

Are they all truly “Dem pundits”? Or just assumed to be/claim to be?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The pundits in question are Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein. More accurately speaking they are liberals.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@swlabr

Ah okay. I thought one might be Yglesias and who knows where his politics truly are.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When Netflix inevitably makes a true-crime Ziz movie, they should give her a 69 Dodge Charger and call it The Dukes of InfoHazard

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nah, to keep with the times it should be a matte black Tesla Model 3 with the sith empire insignia on top and a horn that plays the imperial march.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Your idea is better. This perfectly captures the mood.

The only throwback thing I insist on is window entry. For historical reasons.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Considering Tesla's well-documented issues with functional door handles, this may be more accurate than you think

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why make a true crime movie when you can do a heavily editorialized 'documentary' for a fraction of the price.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

practical downside: too easily seen as a mockumentary

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Redis guy AntiRez issues a heartfelt plea for the current AI funders to not crash and burn when the LLM hype machine implodes but to keep going to create AGI:

https://antirez.com/news/148

Neither HN nor lobste.rs are very impressed

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

Ultra-rare footage of orange site having a good take for once:

Top-notch sneer from lobsters' top comment, as well (as of this writing):

You want my opinion, I expect AntiRez' pleas to fall on deaf ears. The AI funders are only getting funded due to LLM hype - when that dies, investors' reason to throw money at them dies as well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

lol @ the implication that chatbots will definitely invent magitech that will solve climate change, just burn another billion dollars in energy and silicon, please guys i don't want to go to prison for fraud and share cell with sbf and diddy

who is this guy anyway, is he in openai/similar inner circle or is that just some random rationalist fanboy?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

who is this guy anyway, is he in openai/similar inner circle or is that just some random rationalist fanboy?

His grounds for notability are that he's a dev who back in the day made a useful thing that went on to become incredibly widely used. Like if he'd named redis salvatoredis instead he might have been a household name among swengs.

Also burning only a billion more would be a steal given some of the numbers thrown around.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Also he wrote borderline anti-woke stuff back when doing that could still appear edgy and icky.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, find odd how people dont seem to get that this llm stuff makes AGI less likely, not more. We put all the money, comute, and data in it, this branch does not lead to AGI.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

but but this branch brings more hype money, it's earn to give, you know nothing about effective altruism /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have been achtually it was a stately homed, and stand corrected my bad people. I will start to drill oil to give.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just think of how much more profit you could make to address environmental issues by forgoing basic safety and ecological protections. Who needs blowout preventers anyway?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Remember, cleaning up oilspills is good for the GDP.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

They don't call it the Clean Domestic Product

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