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[–] [email protected] 210 points 1 day ago (54 children)

You’re goddamn right I’m furious.

And no less furious at the weak-kneed Democrats who do nothing as their own country is ripped from them by a clown. “Oh sorry; we’ll try again in 4 years” they say. Fuck your thoughts and prayers, how about do something. You won’t get a free election in 4 years, dummies.

Oh yeah, I realize you’re super busy and with your sportsball games and your reality TV marathons. Your inaction today will haunt your future.

And no this isn’t a call to action or a cry for help. We’re going to be just fine. You’re the ones who have to live there, and live with yourselves knowing you did nothing.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 15 hours ago

The Democrats have no power in the US now. They still hold a few governorships, but the GOP has complete control of the US federal government and that's all that matters on the international scene.

It's a distinctly American thing to blame the Democrats for anything the government does even when they don't control the government. Then they wonder why the Democrats struggle to win elections even against insane GOP candidates like Trump.

In what other country is the opposition party blamed for what the governing party is doing? Only in America.

Things are the way they are in the US because people voted for it. The Democrats aren't doing anything because anything they do now would be purely performative and have no effect. They're a political party, not a revolutionary movement. They aren't doing anything until the next election (if there is one!) because that's how it works with political parties in a democracy.

It would be the same in Canada. If Pollievre got a majority and brought in Elon Musk to kill the government there would be nothing the Liberals, NDP, or any other party could do. That's why it's important to vote and vote wisely.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just was involved in a yelling match this morning about Polievre.

Just some background: I'm a farmer in N. Alberta. We farmers love coffee and visiting. There's half a dozen of us around the shop talking about this, and I safely would say everyone was against Trump, even weirdos that defended him during the election. Even then, though, I'd say the Trumpists here were about 1:10. Now it's zero.

But one person tried to stand up for Polievre this morning, saying he wasn't going to back down to Trump. Everyone else, and these are all what you would call older men, between 50 and 70, had a crack at this guy. The prevailing attitude is that Polievre isn't telling the truth, doesn't have our backs, and nobody is willing to take the chance that he's not lying.

That's in backwoods, buttfuck Alberta. I don't know if this holds true across the prairies, but this is an area where the word Liberal is an epithet. But I wouldn't be surprised to see the CPC get decimated at this point, even in rural ridings.

I'm worried Trump will back down when an election is called, and it will take the edge off, and Polievre will get in. I don't trust the fucker, but most rural voters just need the barest hint of a reason to not vote for the Liberals. In the end, nothing that happens west of Ontario matters, but I imagine if it's like this here, it's way more obvious in the East.

[–] CancerMancer 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I live in the Ottawa region and the attitude around here is simply that Trump handed the Liberals the win. I don't think this election is unsalvageable for the Conservatives (and frankly I think it's dangerous to think so) but they've got a mountain to climb, that's for sure.

Ontario's demographic in Toronto and Ottawa could be summed up as "urban conservative". Interestingly many of them think of themselves as left-wing or progressive and think the same of the Liberals. The reality is very different: they view public servants, the poor, and any other right-wing punching bags as undesirables, they protest any efforts to get housing built, and they even harass striking workers. But hey they're down with "the gays" so they're forward thinking right?

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This headline is subtly dismissive.

"Angry" and "right now" both suggest a transient state. That's not what we're seeing.

"Canada has finally had enough of the USA" would be a more apt title; or "Canada reaches its breaking point."

Alongside of the #Never51 hashtag is an almost equally frequent #NeverGoBack. Canada, as a nation, as a people, are making the decision to go their own way, and never be so beholden to any country as we have been to the USA since 1959.

Never. Go. Back.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I used to be angry.

I still am, but I used to be, too.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I hope you're right, but the public's memory is short.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Some of the public are people like me. I stopped giving any money to Blizzard back when they made StarCraft (II?) require a Battle.NET account...or was it patching out already present offline LAN support? It was also hearing about shitty labor practices and workplace harassment at some point. My memory of why is pretty spotty, but the "don't give Blizzard money" part has stayed crystal clear for decades now. I genuinely don't remember why I first blacklisted EA games (might be commitment to DRM, might be just because they're such a shitty company), but it's on that list for life.

Heck, between 3rd-party DRM, loot boxes, and everything from "crunch time" development cycles to transphobia, I've been all but done with AAA gaming for several years. I could hardly be a gamer at all any more, if not for the rise of indie gaming, but that's not really my point right now.

The point is I remember the important, actionable bits. And I think most other Canadians will also retain their simple conclusions that won't need re-evaluation. After this, they'll have a solitary pedestal in their mind palace just to store one special conclusion from all of this:

Fuck the U.S.

And after floundering around for a bit, Canadians will find the indie trade they love; in a few years, they won't even miss AAA trading.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea, in the US it lasts less than 4 years.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Great state of Canada"...

To be fair, I heard a news anchorwoman in British Columbia refer to the US as "the lower provinces" lol. I had never heard this before, but since it was used casually on a newscast I assumed it was a fairly common expression. Maybe Bonespurs heard about that and got a burr in his diaper.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

Upper and Lower Canada making a comeback, with slightly different meanings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

There is a significant difference between a regular person, even a TV personality, and a politician saying that. Enough so that I don't think the term "to be fair" can be applied to it.

[–] WoodScientist 5 points 1 day ago

I'm down with that. In fact, can Canada just annex Oregon and Washington? I would consider emigrating to Canada myself. But...that's hardly a trivial thing to do. Plus packing is such a pain in the ass. Plus, selling a house, moving companies and all that. Ugh. What an effort. It would be a lot more convenient for me if we could just move the border a good ways south.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just hope people remember than even AFTER the government changes, the companies and people behind them are still the same.

[–] Voroxpete 73 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The anger I'm seeing isn't just at Trump, it's at Americans in general.

They voted for this lunatic, twice. How can we possibly trust that shit like this won't ever happen again?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Not to mention the 1/3 of eligible voters who couldn't fucking be bothered to vote at all. Fuck them too.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Oh the North Remembers.

[–] HellsBelle 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What I can say for sure is the odds that there will be some kind of political or economic rupture between the US and Canada that lasts decades into the future have gone up substantially just over the course of the past few months.

Yup. Trump's legacy will not be a glowing one at all.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

I doubt that. He fucked up the first time around, broke shit, wrecked things, stole classified documents, convicted of 34 felons, stole PPE from blue states to kill them during covid and millions needlessly died during covid. What happened? Nothing. People don't really remember any of that. He was never punished for any of his actions or crimes.

Trump is the prime example of American hubris and apathy.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

After reading about Rubio's stupidity during the G7 meeting, Brussels should ask Canada to join the EU. It would force the UK to vote again, the EU would be number one in GDP and Putin's Fucking Sock Puppet would have an aneurysm.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn right we are fucking mad.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Trump's goal was to sow division

Everything's going to plan

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