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[–] febra@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If artificial intelligence can be trained on stolen information, then so should be "natural" intelligence.

Oh, wait. One is owned by oligarchs raking in billions, the other just serves the plebs.

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[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 days ago (10 children)

That's like calling stealing from shops essential for my existence and it would be "over" for me if they stop me. The shit these clowns say is just astounding. It's like they have no morals and no self awareness and awareness for people around them.

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[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

God forbid you offer to PAY for access to works that people create like everyone else has to. University students have to pay out the nose for their books that they "train" on, why can't billion dollar AI companies?

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What if we had taken the billions of dollars invested in AI and invested that into public education instead?

Imagine the return on investment of the information being used to train actual humans who can reason and don’t lie 60% of the time instead of using it to train a computer that is useless more than it is useful.

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[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Look we may have driven Aaron Swartz to suicide for doing basically the same thing on a smaller scale, but dammit we are getting very rich of this. And, if we are getting rich, then it is okay to break the law while actively fucking over actually creative people. Trust us. We are tech bros and we know what is best for you is for us to become incredibly rich and out of touch. You need us.

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[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago

If everyone can 'train' themselves on copyrighted works, then I say "fair game.''

Otherwise, get fucked.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Oh no anyway.jpg

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sounds like another way of saying "there actually isn't a profitable business in this."

But since we live in crazy world, once he gets his exemption to copyright laws for AI, someone needs to come up with a good self hosted AI toolset that makes it legal for the average person to pirate stuff at scale as well.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 8 points 2 days ago

No, actually they've just finally admitted that they can't improve them any further because there's not enough training data in existence to squeeze any more demonizing returns out of.

[–] graff@lemm.ee 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If training an ai on copyrighted material is fair use, then piracy is archiving

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest!

What is the charge, officer? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Whoever brings Aaron Swartz back gets to violate all the copyright laws

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[–] kipo@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If your business model only works if you break the Law, that mean's you're just another Organised Crime group.

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[–] Bakkoda 14 points 2 days ago

If I'm using "AI" to generate subtitles for the "community" is ok if i have a large "datastore" of "licensable media" stored locally to work off of right?

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago

Come on bro, let us pirate bro, just one more ngram of books bro

[–] Jericho_One@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago
[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So Deepmind is good to train on your models then right?

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