Warner and Kaine have both said they intend to vote no. Unfortunately there's no chance my congressional district is going to do anything other than give Trump carte blanche.
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If someone who has been in office doing their job for decades and still hasn't changed much .... why does anyone expect them to do anything different now?
No one does. That's why they need to go.
At some point the people will have to use their check on power. The second Amendment.
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A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
So like... what the fuck even happens in a government shutdown?
How does power shift when that happens?
That’s my question, too. How does a shutdown suddenly give the reavers more power to destroy? I mean, they’re already tanking everything.
I think they are gearing that shutdown will shut down the courts too (a branch that supposed to be co-equal)
People who can afford not to get their paychecks anymore can still show up for work, the President, the Treasury, and Military will be operating at full capacity, but federal workers will no longer receive payment and will likely be forced to quit and congress might remain in recess for a long time.
I guess the people will be compelled to hold an impromptu no-confidence referendum with bricks and molotovs for ballots.
'No' is not enough.
No capitulation.
I don't know the details of the powers trump would have under a shutdown so I'll have to reserve judgement on this one. Some of the dems are acting a little shell shocked since this chaos started though so you wonder if they can be useful again.
Reading a bit it seems the funding bill in its current form basically cuts their remaining healthcare and removes most congressional oversight on how money is actually spent, among other things.
If so then yea it's probably not better than a shutdown.
I get the funding bill issues. I was referring to not knowing much about the powers trump would gain with a shutdown. I did see another post saying shutdown powers would be better but I still don't have a take on it. It sounds like they're bad either way.
Republicans created a dilemma though, the bill legalizes and gives trump more power, not then of government is shut down, so are the courts.
Looks like we are fucked either way.
I miss Anthony Weiner