This is a wonderful point! I recall years ago reading the government said of the hippies that they just started selling them incense (to put it lightly) and it was one of the ways of taking them down from the inside. So this is an old trick used by many. Sucks how insidious it all is.

Do fascists really try to take Satanism though? Don't they usually prefer to claim to be on God's side?

There's a specific breed of online Nazis who insist that it's 'punk' to be Conservative.

I have a Celtic knot tattoo on my forearm (actually it's the album cover of King Crimson's album Discipline).
My British friend told me I shouldn't display that in public in the UK because people might think I'm a neonazi.
I'm like fuck no, Celtic symbols don't belong to Nazis and I won't let them have it! Also, it's a prog album cover wtf

Does that go for liberal or philosophical ideals like free speech?

I come across a bit of rhetoric identifying free speech as a right-wing authoritarian cause, arguing that they "claim, twist, poison, ruin" it, so it's fine to give it up and no longer defend it.

Those rhetoricians seem to have a skewed or ahistorical disregard for the advances in political philosophy from the enlightenment era that got society out of the dark ages, away from authoritarianism & toward political plurality & liberal democracy. Freedom of speech was a foundational development & its growth enabled the civil rights movements that followed.

Yet according to the rhetoric, it's a problem now that right-wing authoritarians claim is as part of their cause. They'll just let them claim & define it, and now that free speech is wrong (since they let right-wingers "have" it), it's okay to limit & undermine it.

One might think they're right-wing authoritarians in disguise trying to dupe everyone into threatening the foundations of liberal society. Whether or not they are, there's a good chance they'll show up here possibly in response to this comment. Is there a name for that type of rhetoric or the people who argue it?

Anyway, it all seems like capitulation to me. I think letting fascists claim such philosophical ideals is a mistake.

Not wrong at all, the Nazi Party co-opted and stole countless icons and imagery, the swastika itself was stolen.

and the modern day Nazi Party in Russia at least, tries to steal entire letters of the Latin alphabet.

I had to stop wearing my Mjølner pendant because of those fucks. So I fully agree.

Nazis are cultural parasites.

They already took flags in multiple countries.

It’s always iffy when you carry the flag of your country because the people who do that tend to be assholes. Let’s not let them get anything else.

And take the flags back too.

I don't know man, Satanism is pretty fucking stupid.

Or Hawaiian shirts. Man, I love my Hawaiian shirts and I was not happy when they were briefly associated with some nonsense fucking Civil War 2.0 bullshit. I'm very glad that particular stylistic movement fell apart.

We just watched one do a nazi salute twice, on national TV, in the seat of government and not a single member of the "opposition" had the balls to walk up there and punch him in the face.

The Nazis have won. People care more about civility than fascism.