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German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock defended Ukraine’s right to strike targets on Russian soil, saying that Kyiv acts within international law, Anadolu news agency reported on Aug. 22.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She’s right. It takes a special kind of hexbear mental gymnast to think that only one side is allowed to attack the other.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know what a hexbear is, but I think that neither side should be 'allowed' to attack another country. And I would prefer a more de-escalating attitude from the green party member Baerbock.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Hexbear is a "tankies" propaganda Lemmy instance, they like to spam threads with childish images, brigade posts to support the fucking CCP, and tell you that since you disagreed with them you're going to "get the wall" when they start their revolution.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think that neither side should be ‘allowed’ to attack another country

And neither is. Russia broke several international laws, including the Budapest Memorandum which it signed on its own free will. Ukraine is not attacking, it's defending. Ukraine did not target anything that isn't directly connected to Russia's war effort. Military installations, military equipment factories, supply hubs, enlistment offices, and such are legitimate targets to defend itself. It's like kicking the knife out of the hands of a robber.

And I would prefer a more de-escalating attitude from the green party member Baerbock.

Which kind of deescalation? The Georgia 2008 kind? The Crimea 2014 kind? The Hitler Appeasement kind?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So are you an AfD or Wagenknecht-fan?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Neither. And I don't have a solution to what the best actions in this war are. But escalating feels very wrong to me and I am missing more resonable voices than Wagenknecht/AFD discussing this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is not "escalation" for Ukraine to attack the soil of the Russian Empire, Russia made that perfectly reasonable and legal when they launched their explicitly genocidal war of imperial conquest against Ukraine. Kremlin propagandists get to pretend it's an escalation because it's new, as Ukraine lacked the wherewithal to dedicate resources to doing so earlier on any sort of scale, but Russian soil was always a valid target in the war they chose to inflict upon Ukraine. It's very simple for Russia: If they want attacks on Russia to stop they can stop their aggression against Ukraine and withdrawal their forces and the war and attacks on Russia will end.

And the reason you don't hear more reasonable voices wondering if maybe rewarding an empire for engaging in a war of imperial conquest with appeasement is the right way to go is because the only reasonable position is the anti-empire position.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And I don’t have a solution to what the best actions in this war are.

Here's the answer: For NATO to establish immediate and total superiority in Ukrainian air space and not wait until Ukrainians are trained, establish a DMZ on Russian and Belarusian territory around Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putin is not my hero.

"Attacking russians (troops and inadvertently civilians) on russian soil… Why is that still considered defense?" You literally asked why attacking Russian troops is considered defense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder what they would consider defence...tickling russian troops? Yeah, that'll show 'em.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

A strong worded letter of condemnation.