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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Product names now:

Crying wojak: "EWRT-3846-Pro"

Product names back then:

Chad wojak: "Pulsar 25"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

When non-english-speaking places try to come up with real names, you end up with

Zeuslap, Hgfrtee, and Grebear

So the random characters only slightly inferior

[–] [email protected] 32 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah the HT269-GH262J has nothing on the HT269-GH262J-P#@/JKL

[–] [email protected] 27 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Me, researching online: What's the difference between the HT269-GH262J-P#@/JKL and the HT269-GH262J-P#@/JKL v2?

Every spec sheet in existence for the two:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

The release year stat and the price are different

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago

The missing tooth detail got me

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 day ago (10 children)

My comment from last time this was posted.

The most commonly cited monitor in recent years for this is “AW3423DWF”… Which is AlienWare 34" from 2023, DisplayPort, WQHD, Freesync.

Point is, people see a lot of characters and complain when in reality it is exactly what you are referring to. The name is an encoded version of its capabilities. Its just that the encoding isn’t always clear because if every company used the same encoding they would have the same name. and if there are 2 similar monitors you would need to have every feature in the name to differentiate them, so the shorthand encoding becomes necessary. (Eg, AW3423DW and AW3423DWF only really differ on freesync vs gsync, thus the F at the end)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Just give it a cool name like Deathstalker and put that information on the box.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

This guy gets it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Then release Deathstalker Pro, Deathstalker Max and Deathstalker Ultra so that it's easier for the users to know the difference

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And of course it's updated with new versions a few times every year or so. So the Deathstalker Pro from the end of 2024 is actually better in many respects than the Deathstalker Ultra from 2022, but you'll have to check the fine print on the box to make sure you're getting the updated QD-OLED version, and not the older AMOLED version. If it has 220 Hz rather than 240 Hz it should be the newer model. Unless you live in South America, in which case they all use WOLED displays, though the specifications are the same so you have no way of knowing without opening it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

White OLED, every pixel uses a white OLED "backlight" to make the light and RGBW color filters to make the colors. It's one solution to some of shortcomings of earlier OLED technology like color degradation.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

i think bundling these features together in a brand name and incrementing it with version number would be more helpful.

having the "alienware porkchop 23" would allow people to become familiar with the branding and understand the featureset that this model comes with.

dwf does not mean anything to most.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

That only works if you assume that there is something consistent to version. Some years it's a 34" ultra wide, some years it's a 32" 4k. Will there ever be another 34" ultra wide from alienware? Who knows! Not every monitor gets a revision. and if you have random names for 100 different monitors every year, that doesn't really help make sense of things either.

Alienware Monitor 7.... Well they release 100 different models a year, and every year thats going to increment, and consumers often conflate "bigger number better" so you better make sure you get the numbering right.

And "Porkchop" means absolutely nothing to anyone. DWF at least means something to some people. Going from 0% usefulness to even 10% usefulness is a good move.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

I get the logic here but I just don’t think most people think like this. Products are called the “Honda Accord” and the “Apple iPhone” and the “Cordless handheld vacuum” for a reason.

Maybe these code names make sense for the actual engineers working on them. But only the nerdiest of the nerdiest of nerdy consumers will remember a couple of these names. In my line of work I’ve spent a couple decades with a ton of regular folks, non-techy people. You might be surprised how many of them can barely remember what number of iPhone they’re on, and don’t even think about asking them which version of iOS is installed.

TBC: This is not a knock against people who aren’t neck-deep in every industry of every product they own. I couldn’t tell you which engine is in my Hyundai Tuscon or which generation of motor is in my cordless vacuum.

I just think these names are gibberish, probably greenlit by people who don’t think about this stuff. But they aren’t effective names for regular consumers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

As an IT person who has to tell a non it purchasing department what to buy, no. The code names are specific things that return the exact thing you want when searched on stuff like CDW and B&H, and having to explain exact drive space, memory, ecc vs non ecc would be torture. A simple code they can just copy and paste and get exactly what you want is far more efficient.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

You actually gave a good example for why these brand names are useless.

How many doors does a Honda Accord have? What type of engine does it have?

It's impossible to answer even these very basic questions, because there are so many different Honda Accords that the name could refer to almost anything. It could be a station wagon with a diesel engine, a four-door hybrid sedan, a hatchback, a SUV etc.

In fact monitors do usually have fancy brand names like Predator, ROG Swift or UltraGear that function exactly like the Accord name, giving you some hint as to where the manufacturer think it belongs in their product stack. They just aren't useful for identifying a specific model, and since there are so many different models, you need the alphabet soup to make sure we are talking about the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I was trying to keep my examples simple for the point but cars usually have sub-brand designations that answer some or most of your questions. Like “LE” or “XR” and such. But people don’t walk around telling each other they drive a “Honda 8CVXY64LLM123GRV,” because most people don’t remember code names like that. They just say “yeah I drive an Accord, it has features x y and z that I really like.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

People don't walk around telling each other they use an "ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG27ACDNG" either. They'll say they have a "27 inch OLED", or possibly a "27 inch 1440p OLED from Asus".

You could use the sub-brand and say you had an "Asus ROG Strix" if you wanted, but all that might tell someone is that it's from Asus' midrange gaming segment.

The unique id is simply handy to keep the many models apart. Asus has 217 displays listed on their (US) store. They have 14 different 27" 1440p displays under the ROG Strix brand alone, three of which are OLEDs and you better not get them confused because they use different OLED technology.

Would it be better if they had more diverse product names instead? I'm not so sure. With so many models you'd probably end up with something like the "ASUS ROG Strix Centurion Speed² Ultra+ Black", and I don't think that's any easier than "XG27ACDNG", which at least is short.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

But the model number isn't really the "name" either. That would be "Alienware 34-inch Monitor", from that year, etc. That they don't call that their "Mars" line of monitors is maybe a marketing issue, but the thing people want to know first/most about a tv/monitor is how big it is.

Cars and Phones have product numbers that break down the same way but like you say the general public doesn't refer to them that way. Like the Samsung Galaxy S24 instead of "SM-S928U", which is the North American (T-Mobile?) specific model.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

This method also works for display resolution names like WHKLWXD which is 4k but with six extra pixels on the left side.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

At work I used to have a WUXGA, 1920×1200. I liked it because it just gave extra space. Typically on a desk you're cramped on vertical space, not horizontal.

Prior to that I had a 1080p with two 1600×900 monitors flanking it lol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that just 16x10 instead of 16x9? Been awhile since I've messed with those resolutions

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, I never noticed that before. Yes, it is exactly 16:10. I wouldn't mind using it again for a work setting, but I think I'd like exactly 16:9 for anything gaming related.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I only know because I bought two 16x10s and was so confused my my shit looked weird.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

I love 16x10s

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sony and everything that isn't a PlayStation

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I‘m sure the Playstation also has a horrible internal model name. It would be necessary to distinguish different variants.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Japan received the SCPH-1000, North America received the SCPH-1001, and Europe received the SCPH-1002.

i do not like this

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

I wonder why Sony wants Japan to have bigfoot, America to have Ya-Te-Veo, and Europe to have the shadow objects.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago

Ah yes, the very sensible named headphones WH1000-XM# and the earbuds WM1000-XM#, where the # is the generation

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The naming pattern makes it easier to have different "models" per major retailer. This hinders consumer price comparisons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

or grey market imports. Like TVs in Eastern Europe have different codes than in Western Europe even when they are the same yet the Eastern European version is often cheaper. Like the only difference is the frequencies they accept on the CI+ module or something. But that doesn't matter for most people since they hook up the tv-box from the cable company trough HDMI anyways.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are monitors mattresses now?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Always have been. Or at least since the beginning of the world wide web.
Stores had long used the "low price guarantee" slogan to draw customers. And they had trained the average customer to believe that it meant they had the lowest prices. Back in those days price comparisons were hard. Sales ads changed every week or two but other than what was in the ads you had to go from store to store checking the price yourself. Yes, you could call around to different stores, but that was unreliable. Even just getting stores phone numbers was a hassle. Plus, most stores didn't have their inventory computerized, and the ones that did were only close to correct once a year, right after they did their yearly inventory. So they just had to keep track of a couple of their closest and biggest competitors. If you tried hard enough you could save a few dollars, but it was rare and took a lot of effort. Most people would settle on what they thought was the "best store" and just stick with it. Even when a competitor had a sale at a significantly lower price that was simple enough for them to deal with, they would just pull their stock from the shelves and put a sign on it in the back room that said don't sell until a certain date. If you shopped somewhere like Sears or circuit City where their sales people worked on commission, You could sometimes develop a relationship with one of the veteran sales people as "your guy". And they would be able to have this insane knack for "searching the storeroom" for you and "mysteriously" finding the "last box that had been misplaced".
Then Walmart came on the scene and was a huge pain in the ass by actually having cheaper prices on a lot of things. Enough companies complained that eventually a few suppliers would have a special model number for a few high dollar items that they sold to Walmart and then a different model number for everyone else. But this was only on a few things like computer stuff and car stereos.
And then the internet came along and they were forced to slowly start giving just about every store "unique models".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Great post, but Jesus... breathe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Mix together sitting for hours in a doctor's office with no wifi, shitty cell service, and more than a smidge of ADHD and that's the result. 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Same method companies use for generating brand names on Amazon.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, yes. Like my highly successful
LG V ~60~ ^ThinQ^ 5GUW | DualScreen

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

I think the actual featureset is: "Made for tomorrow. Here for today."
As in: It is made to become usable tomorrow (hopefully with firmware updates by then) and it will last until the end of today (so definitely before all the updates arrive)

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