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It may provoke Trump, but Canada should cancel the purchase of F-35 fighter jets from the U.S. (www.theglobeandmail.com)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Every country knows the US changes faces faster than my ex girlfriend.

At this point other countries just need to deal with 4 years of this bullshit.

If Trump were to take over the government like Hitler did, which looks to be the case, only then would countries start looking at dropping the USA.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Switzerland too!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (7 children)

What would they do instead? Get a bunch of J-35s, like Egypt?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

J35 or the new Turkish planes. Or develop their own plane.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fighter planes are very expensive to develop.

The F-35 program cost something around $1.7 trillion. ~~That's several times the annual GDP of Canada.~~ That's more than half of Canada's annual GDP.

A better bet would be to enter some joint development program with partners in the EU.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That is not several times Canada's GDP. Maybe you meant many many times Canada's annual military expenditure.

Regardless 1.7 trillion Is a lot of money

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Join GCAP (Global Combat Air Program) or FCAS (Future Coma=bat Air System). They are both multi-country projects to develop next gen fighter jets. Off the top of my head, GCAP is UK, Japan and Italy where FCAS is Germany, France, and... I'd have to look it up, and I'm feeling a bit lazy.

Assuming there is no schedule slippage, they won't deliver aircraft until 2035 and 2040 respectively though, so we would still need a stop gap. I'm partial to Gripen, and Sweden has flirted with joing GCAP as well, so that might be a good way to reivigorate Canadian aerospace, in cooperation with the other GCAP countries and Sweden.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Sorry. That was an error on my part. I'll correct it.

[–] neidu3 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Typhoon/EF2000/Rafale. Not stealthy, but still a superb multi role aircraft.

(Yes, I know Rafale is technically not the same aircraft, but it sprang from the same initial plans, so it's pretty close)

#buyeuropean, I guess

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

From what I understand, those are fine if you're going up against enemies that don't have stealth (and all the ancillary technologies that go with it).

The general military analysis is that the F-35 and J-35 are superior to anything else in the air and are similar in capabilities to each other. Conflicts between them will come down to who can make more of them faster. Conflicts between one of them and an older generation fighter seems to be, they'll blow you up before you can see them.

EU better get cracking and start making stealth planes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's assuming stealth stays effective much longer.

Stealth planes can already be detected, it's a matter of doing it fast enough and small enough to work in a missile.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tempest and FCAS are supposed to be coming.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably be some laid off government contractors soon with stealth expertise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Already leaked the info to Russia.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

Let’s do it and replace them with MiGs 🤨

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