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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wow what the hell, this is the first I'm hearing of this change. I use Rocky Linux for my server atm and I was thinking I liked it for server use quite a lot more than Fedora, but if they're going to do this then I'm going to have to jump ship unfortunately. Maybe I'll go back to Debian. Or even better, maybe I'll try using Devuan in a prod server setup for once?

I'm super not happy to have to jump ship again though when I JUST settled into something I'm comfortable with that works near perfectly well for my usecases, after multiple years of jumping around undecided.

E: Although I did just read that statement from the Rocky Linux team, and maybe it'll be fine? But I'm still gonna prepare to move just in case this fucks over the Rocky Linux ecosystem anyways

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Users looking to run an EL-like linux that pre-dates RedHat's derivation and meddling will want to look at PCLinuxOS .

Its pedigree is mageia, so Mandrake and Conectiva.

While it's got a horrifically bad PXE install, and while that means Vagrants and templates are ghetto and thin on the ground, it's otherwise a very fine OS with a wide compatibility range that RH couldn't even match with this AppStream bullshit (ohai, /etc/alternatives).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I know this isn't related but: Why do I see a completely different set of comments here when I'm logged in, as opposed to when I'm not?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Could be bc of how you set sorting comments in your account vs guest's default.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Sometimes comments won't load for the post, it loads the comments for the last post you visited. Refreshing tends to fix it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I noticed this when I set my language settings in my lemmy profile.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve noticed much better post syncing on 0.18. 0.17.4 still relies websocket for syncing post comments and was constantly behind. I’m not mostly seeing that on instances that haven’t quite upgraded yet.

Though if I was running a larger instance i probably wouldn’t upgrade quite yet until ironing out any kinks in a non-prod.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The chatter around the water cooler at my office is that this may kill Rocky Linux and AlmaLinux (at least as downstream forks of RHEL). It will be very painful for companies that want RedHat support for their production systems but don't want to pay for RHEL licenses for developer test beds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Fuck, I really hope this doesn't turn the tides for other Red Hat projects.

Not even my Linux distros can escape the enshittiness. WTF man.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's ultimately because of capital. Capital controls resource allocation, so any project that requires resources will have to align with capital interests

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[–] thiccdiccnicc 1 points 2 years ago

Fuckkkk

Huge L for the community and for my cheap ass company that will likely be migrating away soon 😭

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What's to stop the CentOS-like distributions from each purchasing 1 copy of RHEL? Wouldn't that copy still be under GPL, with the software freedoms intact -They can then change and give away anything based on RHEL - they might have to strip out any artwork that is RHEL-specific but they have to do that anyway. Would Red Hat be able to stop them under GPL? Could Red Hat just refuse the sale?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

What may this cause to a casual fedora user?

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