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[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

As an indigenous Canadian with ancestors to this land on all sides of my family, I'll survive right alongside you.

Welcome to Canada my friend!

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I wish I shared in the optimism, but I could easily see them invading, and treating this land as an exploitable frontier. Incentivizing millions of their own citizens to move to their new colony to develop it for their own personal enrichment would mean we could quickly find ourselves outnumbered and displaced.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago

If the US invades Canada, the only outcome is the destruction of both countries. Civil war would rip them apart

[โ€“] Grandwolf319 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think this is inevitable.

We have very fertile land that would get better with climate change.

There will be many people in the entire world needing access to our land for survival.

When push comes to shove, people will think of their own survival.

The only way to avoid it is to build good infrastructure so we could actually take in a good amount of people and have our economy thrive

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Obligatory disclaimer: am 'murican.

I don't think the US will invade Canada for access to its farmland. The US presently has about 5x the amount of arable land as Canada. One could certainly say this land is poorly located, but the US is geography pretty large and production can move. It's not like that hasn't happened in the past. One example is the transition from Maine potatoes to Idaho potatoes.

Canada does have 5% more land than the US, but give how little land is farmed in either country, I don't think this will matter a ton.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I was thinking like this a few weeks ago but with more thought I think we are geographically too difficult to invade by force. The rest of the world would also have boots on the ground here to help us out.

Also I think the vast majority of Americans would just refuse the order to do it. And there would also be a lot of Americans on Canada's side. I don't think very many people there are keen on a war with Canada because it's just straight up stupid

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The rest of the world would also have boots on the ground here to help us out.

Europe's about to be very busy in a land war with Russia.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I was thinking like this a few weeks ago but with more thought I think we are geographically too difficult to invade by force.

It's unfortunately much the opposite; our geography makes us easy to divide and conquer through a combination of the Canadian Shield being difficult to develop on, and the Trans Canada highway being a single point of failure.

https://youtu.be/550EdfxN868

I know the video is about invading the US, but it covers the general strategy the US could easily use to prevent troop movements between the western and eastern parts of Canada.

The rest of the world would also have boots on the ground here to help us out.

The US Navy could easily blockade or destroy the entirety of Europe's combined naval forces in a matter of days. Large-scale troop and equipment transport to bring reinforcement would be extremely unlikely to work, and Europe's militaries know this.

Also I think the vast majority of Americans would just refuse the order to do it.

20 years ago, Ukrainians would never have entertained the idea that Russia would invade and annex them. Many families lived, and continue to live, across both countries. Pernicious propaganda combined with authoritarian rule eventually removed the risk of sufficiently organized opposition.

Will it take 20 years for the US oligarchy to do the same? It's only been two months and we've gone from mutual cooperation to booing each other's anthems in sports games and AI-generated pictures of geese smashing eagles.

Increased trade with China at the US' expense will be the grain of truth buried in Trump's lies about Canada being owned and run by China (it doesn't need to be true, he just needs a fact he can grossly misinterpret, and often, not even that).

I wouldn't underestimate just how thoroughly ignorant and upset many Americans are. A little push in the right direction and the promise of wealth, even if ill-gotten, might be all they need.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Update: https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/trump-fires-top-us-general-cq-brown/index.html

The loyalty purge has begun; I wonder if our military leadership is smart enough to see where this is going?