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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused Donald Trump of living in a "Russian-made disinformation space" due to his administration's talks with Kremlin officials.

He urged Trump's team to be "more truthful" after Trump blamed Kyiv for the war and downplayed U.S. aid contributions.

Zelenskyy’s remarks came as U.S. envoy Keith Kellogg visited Kyiv amid shifting U.S. policy on Russia. Meanwhile, European leaders, feeling sidelined by U.S.-Russia talks, held emergency meetings.

Zelenskyy canceled a Saudi Arabia trip in protest.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I don't get it. How will they sell to the people this total capitulation? I'm not American. As far as I'm informed people there don't like and don't trust Russia and Putin. Won't they see this deal and be like wtf?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

They don’t have their own thoughts anymore; they love trump so much, they’re just going along with whatever he says and he says he likes Russia, so they’ve done a complete about-face on the subject.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It was never really about Russia or Putin, but the ideological divide between capitalism and socialism. And authoritarianism and democracy.

Now, we have an authoritarian president. And apparently a third of the country voted for that so. Yeah that's where Americans are at sadly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As far as I’m informed people there don’t like and don’t trust Russia and Putin.

Not anymore. Much of America is stuck in an information space that sees Russia/Putin as oppressed by liberal propaganda, like they supposedly are.

Much of America doesn’t care, or will see warped versions of this news.

Look at poll exit interviews of Americans, or more recent focus groups. We don’t “see” the same realities anymore, and it’s getting worse.

Wherever you are, friend, beg your country to block or regulate Twitter/Facebook/Tiktok and point to us as what happens when you don’t.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I often wonder how it goes behind closed doors. Is Zelenskyy all polite or is he more like you're full of shit and you fucking know it?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Yep and no one near him is going to correct him which is the perfect recipe for terrible atrocities and catastrophes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Russia got Ukraine's territories, USA wants to obtain something from Ukraine resources too to protect them. UE should ask for something too from Ukraine to protect them from both USA and Russia. Or at least pretend to do it so that the two bad guys think we're bad guys too.

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