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In America, the rich controls the government. In China, the government controls the rich. (lemmy.ml)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Power and wealth control governments ... every government.

Once humanity figures out how to provide more equitable power and wealth to every person everywhere, then we might be able to evolve beyond jungle rules.

In the meantime, it doesn't matter what you want to call it ... communism, socialism, capitalism, liberalism, whatever ... as long as we allow unlimited wealth and power to flow to small groups of people, any system will always end up with the same results.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Inequality absolutely needs to be eliminated to have a truly equitable society. That said though, it's pretty clear that China does have a dictatorship of the proletariat in place. If it didn't then same things we see happening in capitalist societies would be happening there as well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I don't support the CCP, but I do think about these things. How do you create an open system like a democracy that leverages some of the benefits of capitalism, while also insuring economic inequality is minimized and every citizens basic needs are met, without gradually seeing the rich gain influence in that system over time, corroding the protections that make it work? I think as long as the system is open, the rich will use their power to gradually gain advantage and then destroy the system itself. I think the only real shot at it would be for wealth to be seriously capped. Like, no one person can have more than 100% more wealth than the bottom 1%. Anything above that should be taxed away. Also, corporations are not people and corporations should not have shareholders that are not workers.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honestly I’m not the biggest fan of everything in China but these are the types of problems the Chinese government seems to try to figure out a lot more than our governments do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Strengths and weaknesses. Each country has some. Often the net makes them worse than other countries, but that doesn't mean they can't have better aspects

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Meh. Most countries round the world seem to suffer from the same problems to me. Sometimes the jack boot on your neck presses down more. Sometimes less.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I'm not living in USA but I think people got exactly what they voted for, didn't they?

Now the question of it being an educated vote and people being equipped to navigate modern media with modern disinformation techniques is another subject.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I mean, the electorate is definitely unqualified to pick their own leaders, but that's what decades of gutting education funding with absolutely no public pushback gets you. An unqualified electorate elects unqualified representatives.

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