Misandry was omnipresent in the early forms of feminism, as this video shows, with receipts.
this post was submitted on 20 Aug 2023
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Start backing these kinds of content up. Feminists have been active in de-platforming Janice Fiamenco, so preserving them is top priority. I'm certain the feminist here are just playing dumb and are planning to remove it.
yeah this is already her second channel
I'm a big fan of Janice Fiamengo.
Women wanting the right to vote, hold public office, own property, recieved an education, and work weren't about equality?
Maybe watch the video before you comment?
That's egalitarianism, not feminism.
Egalitarianism also holds women as responsible for their choices and actions as much as it does men, which feminists consider misogyny and discrimination.
So they may still be talking about feminism, depending very specifically on the details
Women having the same legal rights is egalitarianism.
And the same legal responsibilities
Rights without equal obligation to society to enable those rights is privilege, not equality
Yes, I know feminists want privileges.
Don't think it was egalitarians who managed to get women right to vote, hold public office, own property, recieved an education, and work. Maybe I'm missing some important egalitarian figures who helped women achieve an equal standing with men in western world?
You apparently didn't watch the video. Please do so before you spread more disinformation.
Women already did own property, and were able to receive an education, and most definitely were not an untapped resource for labor. As was explained in the video, with evidence given.
Yes, they may not have had the right to vote or to hold public office, but neither did most men. It was the struggle for universal suffrage which gave both men and women the vote.
Women already did own property, and were able to receive an education, and most definitely were not an untapped resource for labor.
In the same manner as man? There were rather obvious differences in written law as well as in societal rules, regarding men and women.
I really don't understand the point in denying historical role of feminism for the progress in women rights.
It was categorically denied (by the top level commenter, and repeated by you) that women had those rights. That is the disinformation that feminism keeps spreading with its propaganda.
Please get up to speed by actually watching the video. Otherwise discussion is useless.
It was categorically denied (by the top level commenter, and repeated by you) that women had those rights.
No, at least in my case that is just a very uncharitable interpretation of my words. The point of feminism is to get equal rights (we seem fundamentally to disagree here, but that is my point of view), so I listed things that historically were clearly differently regulated for women and men - to exemplify where feminism strove for more equality. Other movements had different foci. Socialists were more focused on workers rights vs. capital owner, or others were more focused on individual rights vs. the sate.
Obviously all these inequalities have intertwined roots, which is recognized in modern intersectional feminism.