this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2023
329 points (98.8% liked)

HistoryPorn

4928 readers
36 users here now

If you would like to become a mod in this community, kindly PM the mod.

Relive the Past in Jaw-Dropping Detail!

HistoryPorn is for photographs (or, if it can be found, film) of the past, recent or distant! Give us a little snapshot of history!

Rules

  1. Be respectful and inclusive.
  2. No harassment, hate speech, or trolling.
  3. Engage in constructive discussions.
  4. Share relevant content.
  5. Follow guidelines and moderators' instructions.
  6. Use appropriate language and tone.
  7. Report violations.
  8. Foster a continuous learning environment.
  9. No genocide or atrocity denialism.

Pictures of old artifacts and museum pieces should go to History Artifacts

Illustrations and paintings should go to History Drawings

Related Communities:

Military Porn

Forgotten Weapons

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
all 32 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Bit sad that there was no context given with this post:

HAIRY MARY'S HEMP ARMOUR (1899) πŸš‚
In November 1899, a hemp-armoured locomotive was plying the tracks in Natal, South Africa, pulling military trains during the Second Boer War. Unlike other wartime steam engines that were covered in metal armour, the "Havelock" was covered in thick hemp Royal Navy anchor rope leading the troops to dub it the "Hairy Mary". In total, 3.65km of 6" hemp rope was installed by sailors from the HMS Terrible for protection from Boer guerrilla attacks. However, the train was still vulnerable to derailment and the Boers managed to do so in an ambush while a young Winston Churchill, working as a war correspondent, was accompanying troops on a scouting mission.
Several cars were destroyed in the attack and dozens of men were injured and killed. The engineer panicked, but Churchill convinced him to pull himself together and attempt to save the train. With help from soldiers directed by Churchill (working under a hail of gunfire) the engineer managed to rock the locomotive free and the Hairy Mary limped back to friendly lines with dozens of injured men. However, Churchill was captured and spent nearly a month as a prisoner in Pretoria.
His bold escape and the ensuing fame helped Churchill win his first seat in Parliament, in the 1900 UK election (for full details on Churchill's stranger-than-fiction South African adventure, see "Hero of the Empire", by Candice Mallard.) As for the Hairy Mary, it resumed commercial service after the war ended in 1902 but was consigned to working branch lines as more powerful engines were introduced. By 1905, it was considered obsolete and sent to the scrapyard.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/hempnationonline/posts/hairy-marys-hemp-armour-1899-in-november-1899-a-hemp-armoured-locomotive-was-ply/493639161405714/

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However, Churchill was captured and spent nearly a month as a prisoner in Pretoria.

holy crap what a story.. there are no cinematic versions of young Winnie rescuing a Hairy locomotive from guerilla Boers? that sounds worthy of anime almost..

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m terrified to think of what an anime version of something called β€œHairy Mary” might look like.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Winnie Rides Hairy Mary to Glory"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

β€œHairy Mary and the Tentacle Rope Armor”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

In which our protagonists set the stage and learn some valuable lessons which led to the decision to use hemp instead.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Well that is a fascinating story. Thanks for sharing!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you just link a Facebook page as a source?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

And the post has no references...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

First result on Google with someone explaining things. I just wanted to know why they used ropes and OP didn't offer any explanation. Then I thought if I already went through the trouble of looking it up, I might as well post it. Fuck Facebook, but if you don't like this "source" go and grab your own.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This lazy and forgetful man says you are doing God's work πŸ™

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why were the soldiers taking orders from a reporter.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

He was not just some random reporter. His father was an aristocrat, his mother the daughter of a wealthy American businessman. He had military education and had been appointed second lieutenant of the British army years earlier. He had combat experience from Sudan and India before going to South Africa.

Chances are he had a hands on approach to war correspondence as well.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

A smart soldier will accept good ideas in a crisis whether they come from a superior, subordinate or whoever is around if they seem competent. Obviously that comes with some stuff about following the orders of people in charge of you and making a bunch of decisions in the moment but it's not that unreasonable.

The queue for jokes about a "smart soldier" forms below.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I feel like the story may be bs

[–] ElderWendigo 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But how is hemp an effective armor?

[–] WhiteTiger 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ElderWendigo 0 points 1 year ago

How is that helpful?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Why isn't there a movie about this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fucking Churchill. What a fucking badass.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, yes and no. He was also a massive piece of shit who knowingly ordered hundreds of Australian and New Zealand troops to their deaths at the Dardanelles

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every wartime leader knowing sends their members of the military to their deaths.

There are tons of other terrible things he did that are exceptional. Like causing a famine in India by depriving them of food, allowing chemical agents against indigenous people, genuine racism, and encouraged the genocide of Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You should definitely look up the details of that theater of the war. He purposely sent ANZAC troops to storm the beaches that he knew were mined extensively. Used them as mine fodder to clear the way for British troops. Threw away thousands of lives for a failure of a campaign.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well after that he basically became the symbol of the defense of Britain in ww2

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Blessed Cope Rope (+.01 defense, -15 charisma)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

IDK, that might actually work surprisingly well against the weapons involved in that conflict. Didn't help with derailment of course, but this old timey cope ~~cage~~ wig was probably not that bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You got me to actually lol with your comment! Fucking cope rope lmao!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, the Boer war, that's something I haven't thought about since primary school.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You were taught about it in school?