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Trump says the United States does not need oil, gas, vehicles, or lumber imports from his allies to the north.

Trump made the comments Thursday, in his first speech to world leaders since returning to the White House for his second term.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

That's the thing, Canada is mostly a raw materials exporter and the main importer is US industry.

It'd basically be like when China tried to "Wolf-warrior" Australia and ended up with coal, pork and grain shortages.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Then I guess Canada can just switch lumber production and construction standards over to metric now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Shortly after, tradespeople across Canada burst in flames.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Every country that transitioned had some difficulty l, and it is a good idea for a metric country to use metric in construction ... but it would make for good political ammunition.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

A 2x4 stopped being a 2x4 so long ago, and keeps becoming less, we might as well measure them in metric now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

There's a joke to be made here that the Amish still use actual 2x4's, but it's a bit dated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

2x4 has always been the nominal, unplaned dimension since forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You are making me show my age now. When I renovated homes 30+ years ago the studs were sawn 2x4 with sharp corners. The replacement stuff was like 1.75-1.875 x 3.75 the new ones at the stores now are like 1.5 x 3.5.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yah, I just moved an old farmhouse (1962) to another quarter section on the farm, and all the old structure was that square planed stuff, but it was finished 1.5x3.5. I think that's what came out of the one-off mills around a lot of these places at the time. The smoothplaned stuff was kept in the city.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah looks like pre 60s going back to the 1920s it was sawn to 2x4 inches. There are some standards online per time range. Also found most stuff we worked on pre 50s was hardwood. Trying to cut old studs in some places was a nightmare for our blades. That or it became petrified LOL.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Fir. That old douglas fir dries hard as nails. Old barns are all nominal thickness and if you buy boards for livestock pens, they'll all be roughcut full dimension still.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Metric is more precise.

Fight me.

/s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Part of my work is with manufacturers and dimensional drawing info. Inches can be precise but some North American industries insist on fractional rounding on drawings (as a tolerance signifier). Then they chase QA stuff on why the assembly doesn't go together per the print. It frustrates me...guys just used decimals!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'd love to watch the US handle skyrocketing prices because they got rid of all the immigrants, then they got rid of Canadian lumber and oil, causing those prices to skyrocket as well.

Add to that the costs of the yet again border wall, costs of the immigration ~~death camps~~ vacation parks with all the guards, legal shit and transportation, the tax cuts for the wealthy and the extra taxes for people who already can't make it to the end of the month.

So far, el cheeto is doing GREAT!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Something occurred to me while watching some news yesterday. It won't take ICE raids removing people from farms for the effect to materialize. The fear from raids will cause people to stop showing up for work at the farms before that. That's why I think we'll see the effects on food prices quicker.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

But we do need the Food that Canada grows and exports to the US. So fuck you trump you idiot. He bankrupted a CASINO!!!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Trump can go fuck himself!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Maple. Syrup.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"We're going to be demanding respect from other nations," Trump said.Β Β 

Respect needs to be mutual. He sounds like the typical asshole uncle that always acts like they're owed respect be have never showed any in return.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

Most of the world had respect for America before Maga surfaced and it was revealed that it was full of Morons and Nazis. At least more than was suspected before.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of this image:

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This how the aholes in my company treated our vendors. Vendors said go suck it, leading to increasing lead times to "yeah I dk when you'll get stuff" for a year. The fact it happened 2x in a few year is mine boggling.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ah, did you work for a Volkswagen or General Motors supplier in the late 1990s and early 2000s?

Because I recall that exact situation, and the resulting crash of quality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Rofl I won't say much but let's say I'm very certain they were rehired somewhere I know and then fired for the same behavior. Lessons here is don't hire anyone from auto industry. They are just bullies.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I suppose Albertans in oil and gas should call Danielle and tell her to stop the clown tricks and join Team Canada now.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That would require them to have the ability to perceive consequences in the future.

These are the type of people that get a notoriously unstable job making 6 figures on a high school education and immediately lease a brand new $80K truck and start a coke habit because they can currently afford it.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Make America Great Depression Again

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Arguably accurate on the oil front as the US net exports, but the housing crisis is gonna get real bad after the price of lumber triples, ending all construction...

[–] jaemo 2 points 6 days ago

Esp considering they need to rebuild a good chunk of LA. Bad time to make anything more expensive for anyone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Don't they have to rework their refineries in order to replace Canadian oil? Instead the refineries currently working with Canadian oil are specifically built to process dillbit, due to having been built to use Venezuelan dillbit originally.

[–] IrateAnteater 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That and Canadian oil sells at a discount. Cut off the largest foreign oil supply and replace it with domestic oil that sells at full price, all while every trader knows you are buying up all the excess oil to refill the strategic reserve, and hooo boy are gas prices going to go up.

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[–] Reverendender 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's ok. After they're all deported, we won't have any more migrant laborers to build anything anyway (I'm ~(sadly)~ American).

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

"Felon who has had no need or interest in the price of oil, gas, vehicles or lumber makes statements about the necessity of oil, gas, vehicles, and lumber"

Fixed the headline

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He's probably right wrt the USA needing our exports, as much as it sucks for us.

Maybe now we'll actually diversify our industries and seek out new buyers.
Probably not though, since PP is gonna be in charge and that man baby only wants to double down on selling oil to the USA, and thats the entire extent of his economic plan. And by that I mean he is gonna throw money at oil companies and hope it magically turns into more sales to the USA.
What's the opposite of diversify?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Consolidation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean we could just close the borders/ air travel a few days a week as a trial run to see how it goes. A trail separation if you will

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Does that mean we can answer the late night calls from the EU?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Going to be so awesome when dealer lots get overfilled with Chrysler minivans and GM SUVs that nobody wants and can't be exported, meanwhile affordable Chinese EVs that Canadians actually desire are slapped with 100% import tarrifs as protectionism for American and Japanese corporations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Minivans are the best. I own a DGC built in Ottawa. Reliable AF. Huge cargo capacity. Gets 21MPG on the highway. Basically use it as a truck, but it's way more practical than a truck because the cargo capacity is more and your stuff doesn't get wet when it rains.

Only real downsize is tow capacity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I had a Honda Odyssey, it was a good (and powerful) all around vehicle, but I did not enjoy filling the tank. We drive a Fit now, average 35mpg city and 56mpg highway. Even filling that up bothers me lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The thing is I don't drive unless I'm carrying stuff, so a car without cargo space isn't useful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I get it. That is the nice thing about the Fit, and its fold flat or flip up seats. We have put an 8 foot tree in it; 3 full size IKEA bucket chairs, 4 could have squeezed in passenger seat maybe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, odyssey was like that. Super handy during Renos. I just didn't like the "fill'r up" price :)

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