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I have a close friend that I've known 20 years who became obsessed with right-wing politics. even though I'm liberal, I don't make it my entire personality and life. But anyway... I was talking to him this morning casually like friends do.

Me: "Hey man. Do you have off today for MLK day?" Friend: "No, I have to work today." Me: "Damn, sorry to hear. I have off today since it's a company holiday." Friend: "Yeah, I work for a living. Guess that's the difference me and people who live in an ivory tower." Me: "Uhh I work for a living too. Idk why you're acting like I don't?" Friend: "I didn't mean you specifically. But you’re off and I’m not so it shows that you get to relax at least. You should be able to handle the truth lol. There's no shame in admitting that I'm a harder worker than everyone else. you shouldn't be so sensitive"

Honestly, he's not unique, either. I've met so many people who are conservative, obsessed with right-wing stuff, and they're all like this. They act like they're special and the whole world is lazy, "no one wants to work anymore" attitude.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I don't want to work lol

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hate, insecurity, intolerance, and ignorance are the foundation of their ideology. I'm not proud of myself at all for this, but I got sucked into the pipeline when I was a young teen. However I am proud to say that I did fortunately manage to pull myself out of it and I'm now a socialist.

While I hate that I got sucked in, it does give me a lot of insight into why they are the way they are. They start by targeting common insecurities which they use to lure people in, and then they feed them lies while appealing to those insecurities. For example, I remember being a lonely teen and watching mgtow 🤮 videos and the gist of the videos was that if you joined their "movement" that you would get laid all the time, and of course that video was ridden with a shitload of misogyny and lies. Then from there it snowballs into more and more hatred and lies.

Conservatives are just sad, narcissistic losers who are incapable of understanding that people need to lift each other up rather than putting each other down. That's why conservatives like to brag, because they think putting others down is how they get lifted up.

Being knowledgeable is a good defence against their tactics since their lies become obvious and it quickly becomes evident that they are fools.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The secret sauce at fox news is flattering dumb people, telling them they are smart. Smarter than those woke professors, doctors, scientists. "Youre a free thinker, you see right through the deep state lies, you know the real deal and dont fall for their propaganda........etc." If you can flatter a moron into thinking they are smart, you can literally program them like a manchurian candidate or robot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Yall are in the best position to deradicalize them. And while it wasn't good you got sulked in, they were actively targeting people like you to suck you in

[–] [email protected] 177 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If you’ve known him for 20 years he should respect you enough that you can tell him he’s being a cunt. Coming from you it should mean something, and maybe he’ll take a look at himself. I’m friends with some right wingers who are decent people but folks like that need to be called out.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I’m friends with some right wingers who are decent people.

?

"right wingers" or "decent people"

Choose one, because they are mutually exclusive.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You can still be charismatic, a good neighbor, someone who stands up for friends when things start getting rough, a caring person that worries about those around them, and still hold the most batshit insane political ideas. I happen to know multiple people like this.

People are complex, and plenty are good people who have been led to believe the most outlandish shit. They are gullible and don't put enough thought into what they accept as truth. It is just as attractive to people on our side of the fence to paint everyone else with broad assumptions. It is the nature of Evil, because evil is ultimately a boring thing that we all do every day without thinking about it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

"I'd like to have time to start/spend with my family" -thats all you have to say. Too much work time collapses society.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Correct

It's a shame because if Conservatives would just look at who they're supporting for five seconds, instead of going "He's not a filthy librul." they'd realize they stole the Ivory Tower from themselves.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago

Typical conservative reply: it’s your fault you’re offended that I was an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The conservative people that run my job think they're funny or something. We get a the standard holidays off but if the 4th of July or whatever falls near a weekend they'll swap another holiday to make it a 4 day weekend.

The only holidays they "trade away" are MLK day and Juneteenth... Funny that.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 day ago

you shouldn’t be so sensitive

Imagine being so sensitive that someone else having a day off sends you into a insecure tirade about how hard you work. Ditch that loser. Life is too short.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 day ago (2 children)

its the propaganda they ingest. they are constantly told that everyone brown or poor does nothing but live off the government teat. constantly . despite this being demonstrably not true.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What a loser. I hate people like this. We are all working hard you fucking dunce. Get your head out of your ass.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

People like this are just primed to make up their own reality. Rather than face the truth that he has a (probably) shitty job, his mind instead translates it to: "those people are lazy, I'm a hard worker. I'm working a holiday because I'm a tough man and can handle it"

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago

Company holidays mean you're lazy? Bro needs to get a grip.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is no better measure of your worth to a conservative than how many hours you are willing to work in support of the 1% becoming even richer.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Did that actually happen?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like he's jealous that you are getting a day off and is trying to spin it as you being lazy

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Religious conservatives are trained from childhood to unwaveringly believe things that can't be proven, and teaches that malice is the only acceptable way to get dopamine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

People who deliberately ignore struggles that others outside their immediate community experience, especially ones that they cause themselves, don't deserve to be listened to

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

It is good to be moist, even better than being flaky

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My brother, a right winger, brought his kids up to visit me last summer.

It was at the end of the week that he told me that I hardly work at all. I'm like: Yeah, I have fucking guests in my house. I was still at my desk when I wasn't trying to keep 2 teenaged girls entertained.

He moved his family 1000 miles away and 20 years later is lamenting that they have no relationship with the people he moved away from. (I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this lines up with the rise of "Family" talk from right wingers.) This same guy calls other people "Sheeple".

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago

Sounds like him living 1,000 miles away is a good outcome.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why is an adutl man concerned about how much another person works...

Also working hard is not a virtue, it is an indicator of poor management

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

moist toxic

God damn slightly damp conservatives.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Having a work ethic is one thing. But it isn’t inherently satisfying to the ego unless you feel yours is better than others’, and lord it over them. Some people just can’t maintain their motivation without this.

This guy could learn a lot from women. The world is full of women who bust their ASS and never complain or brag or get a single second of recognition.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Very moist. Very toxic. Like a 20 year old mattress, saturated in bacon grease and peppered with dip-spit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

The assertion that your friend is a harder worker might not ge true. I have had to work many holidays in retail because my job said I had to not because Im a harder worker.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Being a harder worker isn't something to be proud of, friend.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, conservatives like to randomly plug phrases of propaganda like unfunny inside jokes. Depending on my relationship with them I do one of the following.

  1. Ignore if I'm not that close. Maybe roll my eyes a bit.
  2. Push back on it if we're in the context of world events/news/politics.
  3. If we're close enough, re-direct the culture war bullshit interjections with interjections of class war. If your friend sees it fit to just randomly call society lazy, you can also randomly call the upper capitalist class lazy government-teat sucking hoarders.
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s just easier to hate.

People choose easy over ‘better’ as a rule.

…and, it’s just easier to hate and be angry than to work through the prejudices, and inner demons you may carry with you.

Inner work is much, MUCH harder to do. I have done some serious physical labour in my life, so I know what I’m comparing here (including the day in/day out of that life).

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

"if your position is that you CHOSE a job that makes you work on MLK Day, that makes you a dumber worker".

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